Thanks for caring. I think if I do well 1L I’ll transfer and every transfer doesn’t get money or scholarship so it really doesn’t matter then.ESQ92 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:06 pmOP, I know it sounds like we're all shitting on you, but I want to help. Look, with a 152 you said your school already gave you $10k off per year. Imagine what you'll get with a 160 LSAT (which is totally doable, trust me). I admire your enthusiasm to jump right in to law school, but consider this: you only get ONE shot at law school in your life. Wouldn't you want to take just a little bit more time and prep to maximize your law school experience? (By boosting your score a bit and getting into a better school or more $$$ at your target school?). Because these things really do matter, and I want to see you graduate with no regrets.
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This thread keeps getting more and more like you went out and found a checklist of all 0L misconceptions about law and law school to follow.
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Pretty sure now this OP is a troll. If not... well... guess he is just stubborn.
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Thanks for refusing to answer my questions!. And you call me a troll.Ohiobumpkin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:34 pmPretty sure now this OP is a troll. If not... well... guess he is just stubborn.
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Because the ABA--for reasons best known to themselves--decided that bars to entry should be placed after schooling, thereby enabling people to put themselves in six figures of debt before discovering that they can't get a job.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:15 pmIf a 152 is so bad why can I go to law school w that w a partial scholarship in the state I want to? Like, there is a limit with SAT and MEd school testing below which you don’t go to school
And people are saying you're a troll because each time you post, you raise some issue that has already been addressed dozens of times on this forum. Which means that either you're extremely naive or trolling for a reaction. I don't really care which it is, because 0Ls generally benefit from seeing these misconceptions debunked, but it would be nice to know if you're posting in earnest.
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Whatever. I sent in my deposit yesterday. Wish me luck and be supportivecavalier1138 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:58 amBecause the ABA--for reasons best known to themselves--decided that bars to entry should be placed after schooling, thereby enabling people to put themselves in six figures of debt before discovering that they can't get a job.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:15 pmIf a 152 is so bad why can I go to law school w that w a partial scholarship in the state I want to? Like, there is a limit with SAT and MEd school testing below which you don’t go to school
And people are saying you're a troll because each time you post, you raise some issue that has already been addressed dozens of times on this forum. Which means that either you're extremely naive or trolling for a reaction. I don't really care which it is, because 0Ls generally benefit from seeing these misconceptions debunked, but it would be nice to know if you're posting in earnest.
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you're gonna need it!
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Thanks for the atitude. Everyone here has been strange and on the attack. Idk why it is so polarizing to say your going to law school on scholarship to be in crim??
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No one has said that going to a decent local school on a good scholarship is a bad idea if you want to practice criminal law. I'm pretty sure most people have said that's a great idea. But you don't have admission to a decent local school with a good scholarship. The advice you've received was geared towards setting you up with exactly those things.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:10 pmThanks for the atitude. Everyone here has been strange and on the attack. Idk why it is so polarizing to say your going to law school on scholarship to be in crim??
The "attack" responses you're receiving have been in direct response to your posts suggesting that you can't retake the LSAT, can just transfer out, can just kill it in 1L, etc.
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How is it not a decent local schooo? And I have a scholarship.cavalier1138 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:34 amNo one has said that going to a decent local school on a good scholarship is a bad idea if you want to practice criminal law. I'm pretty sure most people have said that's a great idea. But you don't have admission to a decent local school with a good scholarship. The advice you've received was geared towards setting you up with exactly those things.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:10 pmThanks for the atitude. Everyone here has been strange and on the attack. Idk why it is so polarizing to say your going to law school on scholarship to be in crim??
The "attack" responses you're receiving have been in direct response to your posts suggesting that you can't retake the LSAT, can just transfer out, can just kill it in 1L, etc.
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What was the GPA cutoff on your $10k/yr scholarship? Some lower ranked schools are notorious for "stacking" sections by putting a lot of scholarship recipients in the same section (meaning they have all 1L classes together). Due to the grading curve, many of them are forced into lower grades than they might have gotten if they weren't all in the same section.
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I won’t say bc I won’t dox myself. I’ve told to many people the cutoff and some come hereESQ92 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:00 pmWhat was the GPA cutoff on your $10k/yr scholarship? Some lower ranked schools are notorious for "stacking" sections by putting a lot of scholarship recipients in the same section (meaning they have all 1L classes together). Due to the grading curve, many of them are forced into lower grades than they might have gotten if they weren't all in the same section.
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Have you looked at Akron's employment stats on Law School Transparency? https://www.lstreports.com/schools/akron/jobs
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Ok over 90% have jobs.......nixy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:04 pmHave you looked at Akron's employment stats on Law School Transparency? https://www.lstreports.com/schools/akron/jobs
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So you're okay with flipping a coin to determine whether or not you'll have a job that actually requires a law degree. Interesting.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:18 pmOk over 90% have jobs.......nixy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:04 pmHave you looked at Akron's employment stats on Law School Transparency? https://www.lstreports.com/schools/akron/jobs
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63.6% have full-time legal jobs. That's the single most important statistic regarding job placement, because you don't need a JD for any of the other jobs that make up the full employment report.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:18 pmOk over 90% have jobs.......nixy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:04 pmHave you looked at Akron's employment stats on Law School Transparency? https://www.lstreports.com/schools/akron/jobs
And regarding your current scholarship offer: You have a $30k scholarship (according Akron's 509, they don't do conditional scholarships, so if your offer says anything other than "good standing," they've changed their policy). Akron costs roughly $175k for three years at full price, which means you'll be over $140k in debt at graduation. How are you planning to repay that?
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Cmon dude its over 50%Fireworks2016 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:29 pmSo you're okay with flipping a coin to determine whether or not you'll have a job that actually requires a law degree. Interesting.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:18 pmOk over 90% have jobs.......nixy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:04 pmHave you looked at Akron's employment stats on Law School Transparency? https://www.lstreports.com/schools/akron/jobs
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There are jobs that pay more than a lawyer that a JD helps you get in interviews and resume. So these superor jobs aren’t included in that number but would inflate it. You don’t “need” the Jd, but it helps.cavalier1138 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:31 pm63.6% have full-time legal jobs. That's the single most important statistic regarding job placement, because you don't need a JD for any of the other jobs that make up the full employment report.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:18 pmOk over 90% have jobs.......nixy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:04 pmHave you looked at Akron's employment stats on Law School Transparency? https://www.lstreports.com/schools/akron/jobs
And regarding your current scholarship offer: You have a $30k scholarship (according Akron's 509, they don't do conditional scholarships, so if your offer says anything other than "good standing," they've changed their policy). Akron costs roughly $175k for three years at full price, which means you'll be over $140k in debt at graduation. How are you planning to repay that?
Repay it? By being a lawyer.....
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What are those jobs that pay more than being a lawyer where a JD helps you get interviews? Specifically?
And why do more Akron grads want those jobs than OSU grads, or grads from other higher-ranked schools?
And why do more Akron grads want those jobs than OSU grads, or grads from other higher-ranked schools?
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CEO COO Gen counsel at start ups and software sales. A jd helps w all these
Idk osu law enough to comment definitively, plenty of potential reasons tho
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Wow .. so you're okay with JUST OVER a 50% chance of practicing the law? I am willing to say it, there is no job that an Akron JD will get you that will pay more than a lawyer's salary. Are them some? yes a few people will probably have some super weird outcome because maybe they came into school with a job offer after they get their degree. However, no your reasoning is completely out of tune with the realities of legal employment.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:04 pmThere are jobs that pay more than a lawyer that a JD helps you get in interviews and resume. So these superor jobs aren’t included in that number but would inflate it. You don’t “need” the Jd, but it helps.cavalier1138 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:31 pm63.6% have full-time legal jobs. That's the single most important statistic regarding job placement, because you don't need a JD for any of the other jobs that make up the full employment report.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:18 pmOk over 90% have jobs.......nixy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:04 pmHave you looked at Akron's employment stats on Law School Transparency? https://www.lstreports.com/schools/akron/jobs
And regarding your current scholarship offer: You have a $30k scholarship (according Akron's 509, they don't do conditional scholarships, so if your offer says anything other than "good standing," they've changed their policy). Akron costs roughly $175k for three years at full price, which means you'll be over $140k in debt at graduation. How are you planning to repay that?
Repay it? By being a lawyer.....
People are not trying to be aggressive here, they are trying to suggest that you are making an error taking out a 6-figure debt to achieve pretty abysmal employment outcomes.
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You are just incorrect. If you think those outcomes are reasonably attainable out of law school, you are way more misguided than I thought.tomtownsend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:23 pmCEO COO Gen counsel at start ups and software sales. A jd helps w all these
Idk osu law enough to comment definitively, plenty of potential reasons tho
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How much money are you going to earn as a lawyer, and what are your monthly debt payments going to be?
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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