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Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:34 pm
by Chloe111
Hi,
I'm a sophomore student and I'm doing major-minor program now. I want to expand my minor to a major, but I'm wondering whether AOs have a preference for students who do Honours program(equivalent to Honours track)? Because Honours program students should write a very long and demanding Honours thesis which can demonstrate stronger writing, critical thinking and time management abilities.
In my university, if you choose the multiple programs track (i.e. double major/major-minor), you cannot write the honours thesis. I think it's a good idea to major in two subjects that I'm interested in, but I really love my current major and I'm okay to make efforts to do an Honours program.

DO you think AOs have a preference? Which one should I choose? I'll appreciate it if you have any advices.

Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:42 pm
by KENYADIGG1T
Chloe111 wrote:Hi,
I'm a sophomore student and I'm doing major-minor program now. I want to expand my minor to a major, but I'm wondering whether AOs have a preference for students who do Honours program(equivalent to Honours track)? Because Honours program students should write a very long and demanding Honours thesis which can demonstrate stronger writing, critical thinking and time management abilities.
In my university, if you choose the multiple programs track (i.e. double major/major-minor), you cannot write the honours thesis. I think it's a good idea to major in two subjects that I'm interested in, but I really love my current major and I'm okay to make efforts to do an Honours program.

DO you think AOs have a preference? Which one should I choose? I'll appreciate it if you have any advices.
This may or may not answer your question, but I hope this helps you think about it with more nuance. The benefits of the thesis are that (if it is how I envision it) you get to work closely with a faculty member. The resulting recommendation (I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to have your advisor be a recommender) is more likely to include your ability to do self-directed work, the ability to think deeply about a certain issue, and your potential to be a professional. On this last point, one of the things I noticed as well is that the thesis writing process is more conducive to the faculty advisor seeing you as a potential colleague; this helped me in my PhD apps, and I'm hoping it helps me in my JD applications this cycle. If you do end up doing the major/minor track, see if there are opportunities to do an independent study with an extensive piece of writing as the end product (maybe not thesis-length). In short, you want faculty to not only be your recommenders, but to see you as people who have the potential to be strong colleagues--this is a much better light than merely being regarded as an above average student.

That make sense?

Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:59 pm
by 01panm
Assuming you're applying to law schools in the US, the best option is the one that you can get the highest GPA with.

Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:24 pm
by Chloe111
KENYADIGG1T wrote:
Chloe111 wrote:Hi,
I'm a sophomore student and I'm doing major-minor program now. I want to expand my minor to a major, but I'm wondering whether AOs have a preference for students who do Honours program(equivalent to Honours track)? Because Honours program students should write a very long and demanding Honours thesis which can demonstrate stronger writing, critical thinking and time management abilities.
In my university, if you choose the multiple programs track (i.e. double major/major-minor), you cannot write the honours thesis. I think it's a good idea to major in two subjects that I'm interested in, but I really love my current major and I'm okay to make efforts to do an Honours program.

DO you think AOs have a preference? Which one should I choose? I'll appreciate it if you have any advices.
This may or may not answer your question, but I hope this helps you think about it with more nuance. The benefits of the thesis are that (if it is how I envision it) you get to work closely with a faculty member. The resulting recommendation (I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to have your advisor be a recommender) is more likely to include your ability to do self-directed work, the ability to think deeply about a certain issue, and your potential to be a professional. On this last point, one of the things I noticed as well is that the thesis writing process is more conducive to the faculty advisor seeing you as a potential colleague; this helped me in my PhD apps, and I'm hoping it helps me in my JD applications this cycle. If you do end up doing the major/minor track, see if there are opportunities to do an independent study with an extensive piece of writing as the end product (maybe not thesis-length). In short, you want faculty to not only be your recommenders, but to see you as people who have the potential to be strong colleagues--this is a much better light than merely being regarded as an above average student.

That make sense?
Yes, thank you, it's very clear. If I do the major-minor track, I don't think I have opportunities to conduct independent study, but I can enroll in senior seminars. Usually, there are 20 students in each seminar and they are required to write a quite long, but not thesis-length, term paper. This may probably allow me to work closer with some professors.

Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:31 pm
by Chloe111
Chloe111 wrote:
KENYADIGG1T wrote:
Chloe111 wrote:Hi,
I'm a sophomore student and I'm doing major-minor program now. I want to expand my minor to a major, but I'm wondering whether AOs have a preference for students who do Honours program(equivalent to Honours track)? Because Honours program students should write a very long and demanding Honours thesis which can demonstrate stronger writing, critical thinking and time management abilities.
In my university, if you choose the multiple programs track (i.e. double major/major-minor), you cannot write the honours thesis. I think it's a good idea to major in two subjects that I'm interested in, but I really love my current major and I'm okay to make efforts to do an Honours program.

DO you think AOs have a preference? Which one should I choose? I'll appreciate it if you have any advices.
This may or may not answer your question, but I hope this helps you think about it with more nuance. The benefits of the thesis are that (if it is how I envision it) you get to work closely with a faculty member. The resulting recommendation (I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to have your advisor be a recommender) is more likely to include your ability to do self-directed work, the ability to think deeply about a certain issue, and your potential to be a professional. On this last point, one of the things I noticed as well is that the thesis writing process is more conducive to the faculty advisor seeing you as a potential colleague; this helped me in my PhD apps, and I'm hoping it helps me in my JD applications this cycle. If you do end up doing the major/minor track, see if there are opportunities to do an independent study with an extensive piece of writing as the end product (maybe not thesis-length). In short, you want faculty to not only be your recommenders, but to see you as people who have the potential to be strong colleagues--this is a much better light than merely being regarded as an above average student.

That make sense?
Yes, thank you, it's very clear. If I do the double major track, I don't think I have opportunities to conduct independent study, but I can enroll in senior seminars. Usually, there are 20 students in each seminar and they are required to write a quite long, but not thesis-length, term paper. This may probably allow me to work closer with some professors.

Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:35 pm
by Chloe111
01panm wrote:Assuming you're applying to law schools in the US, the best option is the one that you can get the highest GPA with.
Hi, thank you for your reply. I don't know whether I should think the problem like this. Assuming I can achieve similar GPA in both track, do you think AOs will have a preference? Or if I can have a very high GPA, which track I take is not important?

Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:06 pm
by Platopus
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Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:58 pm
by Chloe111
Platopus wrote:
Chloe111 wrote:? Or if I can have a very high GPA, which track I take is not important?
This. It really doesn't matter as long as you graduate. Do whatever you find most interesting, and try to cultivate a meaningful relationship with a professor nonetheless.
Okay, I understand. Thank you :)

Re: Question about pre-law major

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:35 am
by Mikey
honestly what you should focus on is just majoring in whatever interests you (doesn't have to be pre-law, can be anything else) as long as you get the highest grades you can get

law schools will care more about your LSAT and GPA over other things