Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:56 am
My son is going to choose one-my question is will graduating from Georgetown make a marked difference in opportunities to get a job in Big Law?
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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:59 am
If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:31 am
To answer your question, NW placed 62% of graduates into biglaw jobs last year, while WUSTL placed 28%, so less than half the rate.
You can further explore employment data here:
https://www.lstreports.com/schools/washu/jobs/
https://www.lstreports.com/schools/northwestern/jobs/
You can further explore employment data here:
https://www.lstreports.com/schools/washu/jobs/
https://www.lstreports.com/schools/northwestern/jobs/
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:47 am
Why are you bringing up Northwestern?BobBoblaw wrote:To answer your question, NW placed 62% of graduates into biglaw jobs last year, while WUSTL placed 28%, so less than half the rate.
You can further explore employment data here:
https://www.lstreports.com/schools/washu/jobs/
https://www.lstreports.com/schools/northwestern/jobs/
OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
There are certainly more questions you should ask (what is the difference in cost, where does your son want to work, what type of law does he want to practice immediately come to mind) before deciding on either option.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:17 am
Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.
It really depends on the cost difference.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:21 am
Substantially agree, but even if GULC improved to 50% for BL+Art. III, I'd call that a marginal difference. That's all just semantics that should mostly be ignored, because both our points are (mostly) the same. Cost is the real differentiator here, not simply likelihood of outcome.Rigo wrote:Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.
It really depends on the cost difference.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:26 am
UVA2B wrote:
Why are you bringing up Northwestern?
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Haha, ooooops....
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:50 am
Depends on cost. Georgetown is worth maybe $50k more total over 3 years. Keep in mind cost of living in stl is way lower than D.C.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:58 pm
cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.
cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.[/quote
I hadn't realized that my son posted here and parents want as much information as possible when giving advice when their son/daughter are making a decision like this.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:01 pm
Cute.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:06 pm
Thank you for your input- if cost is the only consideration, the cost of living is so high in D.C. so he would have to get substantially more in scholarship in order to justify choosing Georgetown. Thanks again!lmalone27 wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.[/quote
I hadn't realized that my son posted here and parents want as much information as possible when giving advice when their son/daughter is making a decision like this.Rigo wrote:Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.
It really depends on the cost difference.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:10 pm
Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.UVA2B wrote:Substantially agree, but even if GULC improved to 50% for BL+Art. III, I'd call that a marginal difference. That's all just semantics that should mostly be ignored, because both our points are (mostly) the same. Cost is the real differentiator here, not simply likelihood of outcome.Rigo wrote:Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.
It really depends on the cost difference.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:12 pm
I think this is a valuable opinion considering the source.PeanutsNJam wrote:Depends on cost. Georgetown is worth maybe $50k more total over 3 years. Keep in mind cost of living in stl is way lower than D.C.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:26 pm
Counter point: your son is going to be worse off living under your thumb of helicopter-advice rather than finding it on his own, which he has. Tell him where to look and let him build his bridge.
Alternatively: go be a troll somewhere else.
Alternatively: go be a troll somewhere else.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:43 pm
Did you write his personal statement too?
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:45 pm
Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:00 pm
He always does!cavalier1138 wrote:Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:06 pm
Then...I think it's fair to say he can solicit his own advice on TLS (which he did).lmalone27 wrote:He always does!cavalier1138 wrote:Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:41 pm
Sorry if my post upset you- enjoy your evening.Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:Then...I think it's fair to say he can solicit his own advice on TLS (which he did).lmalone27 wrote:He always does!cavalier1138 wrote:Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:42 pm
Thanks, to you as well!lmalone27 wrote:Sorry if my post upset you- enjoy your evening.Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:Then...I think it's fair to say he can solicit his own advice on TLS (which he did).lmalone27 wrote:He always does!cavalier1138 wrote:Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.