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Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:55 pm
by presidentspivey
H's website claims that 80% of the latest class spent at least a year out of undergrad. Are they receiving a disproportionate number of non-KJD applicants? Or are they hell-bent on limiting the number of K-JDs to 20-25%?

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:01 pm
by Rigo
I wouldn't say they're hellbent, but they tend to grill k-jd's a bit in the Skype interviews. So k-jd's are viewed somewhat negatively and should have a good reason for why law now.

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:02 pm
by OneHandedEconomist
Correlation =/= Causation

Literally just get above both medians and you're in.

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:04 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
presidentspivey wrote:H's website claims that 80% of the latest class spent at least a year out of undergrad. Are they receiving a disproportionate number of non-KJD applicants? Or are they hell-bent on limiting the number of K-JDs to 20-25%?
I guess my question is disproportionate to what? You don't know what percentage of K-JDs make up the pool of applicants (or to be fairer, numerically competitive applicants).

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:21 pm
by presidentspivey
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
presidentspivey wrote:H's website claims that 80% of the latest class spent at least a year out of undergrad. Are they receiving a disproportionate number of non-KJD applicants? Or are they hell-bent on limiting the number of K-JDs to 20-25%?
I guess my question is disproportionate to what? You don't know what percentage of K-JDs make up the pool of applicants (or to be fairer, numerically competitive applicants).
Sure, should have clarified. For theses purposes, let's say HYSCCN. Is Harvard receiving significantly more competitive non-KJD applicants than the other schools, or are they just rejecting more KJD's? Or is 20-25% a standard KJD rate across the T6?

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:24 pm
by Po$eidon
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Correlation =/= Causation

Literally just get above both medians and you're in.
Not always true. 4.05 LSAC GPA and 174 here rejected no interview

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:35 pm
by presidentspivey
Po$eidon wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Correlation =/= Causation

Literally just get above both medians and you're in.
Not always true. 4.05 LSAC GPA and 174 here rejected no interview
Gotta be a red flag in that app. Can't be just KJD.

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:41 pm
by Po$eidon
presidentspivey wrote:
Po$eidon wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Correlation =/= Causation

Literally just get above both medians and you're in.
Not always true. 4.05 LSAC GPA and 174 here rejected no interview
Gotta be a red flag in that app. Can't be just KJD.
Sure. Still numbers don't guarantee

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:52 am
by OneHandedEconomist
Po$eidon wrote:
presidentspivey wrote:
Po$eidon wrote:
OneHandedEconomist wrote:Correlation =/= Causation

Literally just get above both medians and you're in.
Not always true. 4.05 LSAC GPA and 174 here rejected no interview
Gotta be a red flag in that app. Can't be just KJD.
Sure. Still numbers don't guarantee
Identical stats here with bad softs and KJD. I think your app was just bad.

Re: Is the situation as dire for K-JDs at Harvard as it appears?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:03 am
by QuentonCassidy
(KJD 1L at H here)
I think there is probably a very slight bias against KJD applicants. I will echo an earlier poster who mentioned that it seems to come out a little during the interview. That isn't to say that the interview has a different tone (it is still very friendly) but that almost all of my interview was spent talking about a summer job that I had done; they seemed intent on knowing that I had worked a semi-serious job before (and admitted as much at the end of the interview). Basically, at the very margins being KJD might hurt a small bit, but get both stats above median and it won't matter. Don't let Po$eidon's tale scare you; If I remember correctly that poster had a fairly serious C&F issue.