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Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:32 pm
by radon5
Hey all, this may be dumb/already answered, but I wanted to see if people had insight into the best schools to go to for eventually landing in New York City, big law or otherwise, that are both outside NYC and outside the t-14. Do any exist? Would love to hear answers for both big law and non-big law.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:53 pm
by Nebby
The entire T14 (except NYU and CLS obv since they're in NY)
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:55 pm
by Lavitz
radon5 wrote:that are both outside NYC and outside the t-14.
Georgetown.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:21 am
by cavalier1138
So outside of NY schools and schools with national reach, which schools place in NY?
Do you really need someone else to answer that question?
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:53 am
by dbalkaran
Emory and Vanderbilt would be my guess. You're going to have a hard time finding the answer to that question because people in schools outside of New York may be self-selecting to go to different markets.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:57 pm
by radon5
cavalier1138 wrote:So outside of NY schools and schools with national reach, which schools place in NY?
Do you really need someone else to answer that question?
I've seen you post this kind of stuff on a lot of forums. If you don't have a helpful answer, just don't post. Is this supposed to make me feel bad? I truly don't get the benefit.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:05 pm
by lymenheimer
radon5 wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:So outside of NY schools and schools with national reach, which schools place in NY?
Do you really need someone else to answer that question?
I've seen you post this kind of stuff on a lot of forums. If you don't have a helpful answer, just don't post. Is this supposed to make me feel bad? I truly don't get the benefit.
It's more like a "think through your question before asking it" kind of thing. I promise, practicing now will be helpful during law school if you intend to go. This is fairly easily answered by looking at school employment reports.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:06 pm
by cavalier1138
radon5 wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:So outside of NY schools and schools with national reach, which schools place in NY?
Do you really need someone else to answer that question?
I've seen you post this kind of stuff on a lot of forums. If you don't have a helpful answer, just don't post. Is this supposed to make me feel bad? I truly don't get the benefit.
It's supposed to remind you that you already knew the answer to this, so there wasn't particularly a point to you asking a wider group of people to confirm what you already knew. Along similar lines to your logic: if you don't have a legitimate topic, don't post.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:19 pm
by radon5
cavalier1138 wrote:radon5 wrote:cavalier1138 wrote:So outside of NY schools and schools with national reach, which schools place in NY?
Do you really need someone else to answer that question?
I've seen you post this kind of stuff on a lot of forums. If you don't have a helpful answer, just don't post. Is this supposed to make me feel bad? I truly don't get the benefit.
It's supposed to remind you that you already knew the answer to this, so there wasn't particularly a point to you asking a wider group of people to confirm what you already knew. Along similar lines to your logic: if you don't have a legitimate topic, don't post.
Look at us communicating. I did not know the answer, thus my asking the question, and still do not know the answer. Do you agree with the Vanderbilt and Emory response above?
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:14 pm
by bmathers
I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:35 pm
by guynourmin
bmathers wrote:I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
just want to make sure OP understands how much you can't endorse this. This is probably the right answer to the question, but its the wrong answer. There are like 6 other schools in nyc that aren't Columbia/NYU that OP should pick before Seton Hall if they want to work in nyc.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:39 pm
by BigZuck
Lavitz wrote:radon5 wrote:that are both outside NYC and outside the t-14.
Georgetown.
Savage
Was going to post about UT but realized we are excluding T14s from this discussion.
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:56 pm
by Thomas Hagan, ESQ.
guybourdin wrote:bmathers wrote:I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
just want to make sure OP understands how much you can't endorse this. This is probably the right answer to the question, but its the wrong answer. There are like 6 other schools in nyc that aren't Columbia/NYU that OP should pick before Seton Hall if they want to work in nyc.
True but the only 3 schools besides NYU/CLS I would consider before Seton Hall are Fordham, Cardozo, and MAYBE Brooklyn.
St Johns places only in Queens, CUNY is good for only PI, NYLS is NYLS,
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:05 pm
by bmathers
Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:guybourdin wrote:bmathers wrote:I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
just want to make sure OP understands how much you can't endorse this. This is probably the right answer to the question, but its the wrong answer. There are like 6 other schools in nyc that aren't Columbia/NYU that OP should pick before Seton Hall if they want to work in nyc.
True but the only 3 schools besides NYU/CLS I would consider before Seton Hall are Fordham, Cardozo, and MAYBE Brooklyn.
St Johns places only in Queens, CUNY is good for only PI, NYLS is NYLS,
I hear that NYLS places well if you want to work the television circuit, and some firms mistake it for NYU -- so, you have some prestige factor going for ya there.

Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:15 pm
by Thomas Hagan, ESQ.
bmathers wrote:Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:guybourdin wrote:bmathers wrote:I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
just want to make sure OP understands how much you can't endorse this. This is probably the right answer to the question, but its the wrong answer. There are like 6 other schools in nyc that aren't Columbia/NYU that OP should pick before Seton Hall if they want to work in nyc.
True but the only 3 schools besides NYU/CLS I would consider before Seton Hall are Fordham, Cardozo, and MAYBE Brooklyn.
St Johns places only in Queens, CUNY is good for only PI, NYLS is NYLS,
I hear that NYLS places well if you want to work the television circuit, and some firms mistake it for NYU -- so, you have some prestige factor going for ya there.

Haha does interning for the Honorable "Judge Sheindlin" count as a clerkship?!

Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:20 pm
by bmathers
Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:bmathers wrote:Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:guybourdin wrote:bmathers wrote:I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
just want to make sure OP understands how much you can't endorse this. This is probably the right answer to the question, but its the wrong answer. There are like 6 other schools in nyc that aren't Columbia/NYU that OP should pick before Seton Hall if they want to work in nyc.
True but the only 3 schools besides NYU/CLS I would consider before Seton Hall are Fordham, Cardozo, and MAYBE Brooklyn.
St Johns places only in Queens, CUNY is good for only PI, NYLS is NYLS,
I hear that NYLS places well if you want to work the television circuit, and some firms mistake it for NYU -- so, you have some prestige factor going for ya there.

Haha does interning for the Honorable "Judge Sheindlin" count as a clerkship?!

I would be seriously impressed if you clerked for her. Although, they may call them "directors", or maybe simply "assistants"
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:42 pm
by guynourmin
Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:bmathers wrote:Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:guybourdin wrote:bmathers wrote:I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
just want to make sure OP understands how much you can't endorse this. This is probably the right answer to the question, but its the wrong answer. There are like 6 other schools in nyc that aren't Columbia/NYU that OP should pick before Seton Hall if they want to work in nyc.
True but the only 3 schools besides NYU/CLS I would consider before Seton Hall are Fordham, Cardozo, and MAYBE Brooklyn.
St Johns places only in Queens, CUNY is good for only PI, NYLS is NYLS,
I hear that NYLS places well if you want to work the television circuit, and some firms mistake it for NYU -- so, you have some prestige factor going for ya there.

Haha does interning for the Honorable "Judge Sheindlin" count as a clerkship?!

Definitely counts as a strong soft
Re: Best Schools for NY Practice Outside NY
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:43 pm
by Thomas Hagan, ESQ.
guybourdin wrote:Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:bmathers wrote:Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:guybourdin wrote:bmathers wrote:I can't endorse this, but if you aren't looking for biglaw and just want to land at any firm in the NY area - maybe the Jersey schools right outside of the city? Seton Hall or Rutgers?
just want to make sure OP understands how much you can't endorse this. This is probably the right answer to the question, but its the wrong answer. There are like 6 other schools in nyc that aren't Columbia/NYU that OP should pick before Seton Hall if they want to work in nyc.
True but the only 3 schools besides NYU/CLS I would consider before Seton Hall are Fordham, Cardozo, and MAYBE Brooklyn.
St Johns places only in Queens, CUNY is good for only PI, NYLS is NYLS,
I hear that NYLS places well if you want to work the television circuit, and some firms mistake it for NYU -- so, you have some prestige factor going for ya there.

Haha does interning for the Honorable "Judge Sheindlin" count as a clerkship?!

Definitely counts as a strong soft
I thought we were talking about post-law school clerkship/internship haha