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I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:00 pm
by Number_L25371794
Tl;dr
- Applied early Nov. with mediocre LSAT score
-Registered for Dec. all schools held :/
-Score dropped and chose the bar over brewery
-Received acceptance from dream schools in Jan
- No money, too late for scholarships
-Do I defer?

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:07 pm
by brinicolec
Should you take T30? I'd say no. Look at the schools you're capable of getting into.

Have you even gotten scholly info from all the places you've been accepted yet? I didn't even think that all those schools had started rolling out scholly info yet. Some schools don't give out scholly info until Feb/March. Duke interviews for $$. I don't know what a 168ish is, but if it's a 168, I'd imagine you'll be able to get at least some money from some T14s. How much debt you're willing to take on is more of a personal decision though, and also depends on what your career goals are. Biglaw is generally the goal for folks who take on a lot of debt, but LRAP may also be a good option if you intend to do public interest work.

The debt thing is definitely scary though. "How much debt is too much debt?/How much debt should I expect to have based on my stats?" is the question I've been obsessing over recently.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:31 pm
by cavalier1138
Please tell me you were not dumb enough to make your forum name your LSAC number. You realize that schools actually use it as a piece of identifying info, right?

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:46 pm
by Number_L25371794
cavalier1138 wrote:Please tell me you were not dumb enough to make your forum name your LSAC number. You realize that schools actually use it as a piece of identifying info, right?
All they will see is a woman who has the option of going to other schools and can be easily persuaded by money. :mrgreen: :P

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:51 pm
by Thomas Hagan, ESQ.
cavalier1138 wrote:Please tell me you were not dumb enough to make your forum name your LSAC number. You realize that schools actually use it as a piece of identifying info, right?
omg. dead.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:55 pm
by poptart123
My advice is not to make a username on an internet forum that includes personal information in it.

Seriously.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:59 pm
by Npret
How do you know you won't get money?
You sound like a bit of an impulsive mess and don't take advice well. We know scores don't get averaged. It's been established many times.
Change your user name already. Anonymity is important.
Wait until you get all your info and then make decisions.

Edit to add: when you have all your acceptances and cost, post your actual cost of attendance numbers. There are schools that have great programs for Public Interest Lawyers to repay debt.

Also, why are you retaking?

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:01 pm
by waldorf
cavalier1138 wrote:Please tell me you were not dumb enough to make your forum name your LSAC number. You realize that schools actually use it as a piece of identifying info, right?
I'm screaming.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:04 pm
by LikelyThrowaway
I mean OP didn't post anything that would raise the hackles of an adcomm... I don't see what the big deal is. No, not the smartest username, but I doubt it actually matters.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:12 pm
by Npret
LikelyThrowaway wrote:I mean OP didn't post anything that would raise the hackles of an adcomm... I don't see what the big deal is. No, not the smartest username, but I doubt it actually matters.
It's not that she posted anything terrible about herself. It's that anonimity is much better for things like scholarship negotiations, region she wants to work in, potential career interests, likelihood of attendance, etc.

Adcoms will always search this forum for mentions of their school, so there is no chance they won't identify her.

By the way, congrats on your acceptances. You don't seem to have messed up badly to me and I'm not sure why you think you have to attend schools at sticker.
Sorry if I sounded too harsh. You can get good advice on this forum.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:34 pm
by Number_L25371794
Hey guys, OP here.

Username is obviously random numbers. I didn't think anyone would actually believe it was my LS#. I'm sorry if this stressed yall out.

My stats, and some schools are also changed. I used sister schools and stats within the same brackets. Again, sorry for the undue stress this may have caused. :oops:

So I was researching and it seems no schools except HYSC are worth it on just the LRAP alone.

If I don't get any considerable $$$ and an adcom doesn't neg on my acceptance because of this post, should I defer and apply for the various school scholarships the next cycle?

thanks brinicolec for the insight

edit: I'm retaking because I'm ashamed of my non 170+ scores when I know I can do better. I started with a 149 diagnostic and have been prepping for months. F the LSAT

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:35 pm
by Colonel_funkadunk
Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:Please tell me you were not dumb enough to make your forum name your LSAC number. You realize that schools actually use it as a piece of identifying info, right?
omg. dead.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:36 pm
by Colonel_funkadunk
stole ur identity hope u don't mind

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:50 pm
by Npret
Number_L25371794 wrote:Hey guys, OP here.

Username is obviously random numbers. I didn't think anyone would actually believe it was my LS#. I'm sorry if this stressed yall out.

My stats, and some schools are also changed. I used sister schools and stats within the same brackets. Again, sorry for the undue stress this may have caused. :oops:

So I was researching and it seems no schools except HYSC are worth it on just the LRAP alone.

If I don't get any considerable $$$ and an adcom doesn't neg on my acceptance because of this post, should I defer and apply for the various school scholarships the next cycle?

thanks brinicolec for the insight

edit: I'm retaking because I'm ashamed of my non 170+ scores when I know I can do better. I started with a 149 diagnostic and have been prepping for months. F the LSAT
Good.
I don't know if a June retake will help you get more money from these schools? Maybe someone else can help.
I thought Berkeley had a good LRAP program?

I don't see how you can make decisions without knowing the amounts. This is all very speculative.

Which school specific scholarships are you talking about? Do you mean you messed up this cycle by not applying for them because you didn't think you would get in?

At the worst case scenario you will wait a year and reapply. I would be sure that any school you turn down this cycle knows that it's for financial reasons so you can hopefully get more money next cycle. Make sure they know your situation.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:53 pm
by waldorf
Npret wrote:
Good.
I don't know if a June retake will help you get more money from these schools? Maybe someone else can help.
I thought Berkeley had a good LRAP program?

I don't see how you can make decisions without knowing the amounts. This is all very speculative.

Which school specific scholarships are you talking about? Do you mean you messed up this cycle by not applying for them because you didn't think you would get in?

At the worst case scenario you will wait a year and reapply. I would be sure that any school you turn down this cycle knows that it's for financial reasons so you can hopefully get more money next cycle. Make sure they know your situation.
This. I was prepared to consider paying sticker for a school I shouldn't pay sticker for, and then I got a 70% scholarship. Wait and see what happens.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:16 pm
by Number_L25371794
Npret wrote: Which school specific scholarships are you talking about? Do you mean you messed up this cycle by not applying for them because you didn't think you would get in? .
This exactly. And I was under the impression that because they were school specific I would need an acceptance first. My b.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:31 pm
by floatie
Dude, relax. It's January. You still have a loooooong time to hear back about scholarship amounts. Plus, you'll still be able to take out loans and pay them back like practically every other law student. You're going to be fine.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:43 pm
by Npret
floatie wrote:Dude, relax. It's January. You still have a loooooong time to hear back about scholarship amounts. Plus, you'll still be able to take out loans and pay them back like practically every other law student. You're going to be fine.
+1
Also you might try celebrating your accomplishments so far.

Re: I messed up, and need advice on moving forward.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:36 pm
by tncats
Npret wrote:
floatie wrote:Dude, relax. It's January. You still have a loooooong time to hear back about scholarship amounts. Plus, you'll still be able to take out loans and pay them back like practically every other law student. You're going to be fine.
+1
Also you might try celebrating your accomplishments so far.
I second this. 168 is definitely not a mediocre score either. It's excellent objectively, even if you think you can do better.