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Hey,

I want something more than just self-study for the September LSAT. Is the $179 starter bundle with 7Sage worth it? Do materials come with that cost?

My other option is 50% off Kaplan's offerings (the local instructor has been with the company for 20 years and knows her stuff and teaching). Kaplan would be $700 for two in-person classes per week, every released PT, the q-bank, diagnostics to show you what question types are your weakest, and the LSAT channel (tons of additional live and archived teaching video).

OR, Kaplan self-paced (with LSAT channel, pre-recorded weekly classes, and everything mentioned previously) is $600. Or, w/o the LSAT channel, it's $400.

Thoughts?

bmathers wrote:Hey,

I want something more than just self-study for the September LSAT. Is the $179 starter bundle with 7Sage worth it? Do materials come with that cost?

My other option is 50% off Kaplan's offerings (the local instructor has been with the company for 20 years and knows her stuff and teaching). Kaplan would be $700 for two in-person classes per week, every released PT, the q-bank, diagnostics to show you what question types are your weakest, and the LSAT channel (tons of additional live and archived teaching video).

OR, Kaplan self-paced (with LSAT channel, pre-recorded weekly classes, and everything mentioned previously) is $600. Or, w/o the LSAT channel, it's $400.

Thoughts?

7Sage is amazing! Signed up for the $179 starter course, and one week in, I am loving it!
You don't get any materials, but there are problem sets and drills after each lesson. You can print them out or just write the answers out. And with the money you'll save you can easily buy materials/practice tests.

Going forward what I would recommend to anyone is:

7Sage starter course
+
The LSAT Trainer

Additional books if you want a different perspective or need to address weaknesses. I'm planning on going through the Manhattan stuff afterwards.

Then of course get your hands on every Actual LSAT you can get. The Trainer uses PT 52-71. 7Sage starter course uses 36-44. You can purchase them online, or a friend of mine torrented every PT 1-74 pdf. Unfortunately he sent them to me after I already spent $100 on buying a bunch of Actual LSATS.

However, some do prefer the in-person advantages. 7Sage does give you analytics to show your weak spots. They also offers a question bank with the Ultimate+ package. But, still, I am sure it is nice to be able to raise your hand and ask a question and get immediate feedback.

Part of me also is a bit biased against Kaplan and TestMasters in-person courses because often I have heard that they are more geared towards teaching the fundamentals and leaving you in charge to really figure out the rest. I'm not sure about how true that is, but it is rare that any of these courses are usually sufficient for those aiming to score in the 170s--at least from what I've heard.

I admit I am certainly biased and really am loving 7Sage. You get A LOTTT for under $200 bucks. JY Ping the founder who teaches the lessons is funny and keeps you engaged with real-life examples and whatnot. It is nice not to be bored going through the lessons.

On the other hand, you may be the type of person that likes the structure and personal feel of the Kaplan course. I think the answer is really going to depend on what you prefer. At the end of the day, most of your progress will come when you are drilling and PT'ing at home. Not from any book, silver bullet, or course.

Barack O'Drama wrote:

bmathers wrote:Hey,

I want something more than just self-study for the September LSAT. Is the $179 starter bundle with 7Sage worth it? Do materials come with that cost?

My other option is 50% off Kaplan's offerings (the local instructor has been with the company for 20 years and knows her stuff and teaching). Kaplan would be $700 for two in-person classes per week, every released PT, the q-bank, diagnostics to show you what question types are your weakest, and the LSAT channel (tons of additional live and archived teaching video).

OR, Kaplan self-paced (with LSAT channel, pre-recorded weekly classes, and everything mentioned previously) is $600. Or, w/o the LSAT channel, it's $400.

Thoughts?

7Sage is amazing! Signed up for the $179 starter course, and one week in, I am loving it!
You don't get any materials, but there are problem sets and drills after each lesson. You can print them out or just write the answers out. And with the money you'll save you can easily buy materials/practice tests.

Going forward what I would recommend to anyone is:

7Sage starter course
+
The LSAT Trainer

Additional books if you want a different perspective or need to address weaknesses. I'm planning on going through the Manhattan stuff afterwards.

Then of course get your hands on every Actual LSAT you can get. The Trainer uses PT 52-71. 7Sage starter course uses 36-44. You can purchase them online, or a friend of mine torrented every PT 1-74 pdf. Unfortunately he sent them to me after I already spent $100 on buying a bunch of Actual LSATS.

However, some do prefer the in-person advantages. 7Sage does give you analytics to show your weak spots. They also offers a question bank with the Ultimate+ package. But, still, I am sure it is nice to be able to raise your hand and ask a question and get immediate feedback.

Part of me also is a bit biased against Kaplan and TestMasters in-person courses because often I have heard that they are more geared towards teaching the fundamentals and leaving you in charge to really figure out the rest. I'm not sure about how true that is, but it is rare that any of these courses are usually sufficient for those aiming to score in the 170s--at least from what I've heard.

I admit I am certainly biased and really am loving 7Sage. You get A LOTTT for under $200 bucks. JY Ping the founder who teaches the lessons is funny and keeps you engaged with real-life examples and whatnot. It is nice not to be bored going through the lessons.

On the other hand, you may be the type of person that likes the structure and personal feel of the Kaplan course. I think the answer is really going to depend on what you prefer. At the end of the day, most of your progress will come when you are drilling and PT'ing at home. Not from any book, silver bullet, or course.

If only this was the Matrix and I could download the knowledge to ace this test the night before and do it. Haha

I think I'll try out 7sage. For the money, it certainly can't hurt.

bmathers wrote:

Barack O'Drama wrote:

bmathers wrote:Hey,

I want something more than just self-study for the September LSAT. Is the $179 starter bundle with 7Sage worth it? Do materials come with that cost?

My other option is 50% off Kaplan's offerings (the local instructor has been with the company for 20 years and knows her stuff and teaching). Kaplan would be $700 for two in-person classes per week, every released PT, the q-bank, diagnostics to show you what question types are your weakest, and the LSAT channel (tons of additional live and archived teaching video).

OR, Kaplan self-paced (with LSAT channel, pre-recorded weekly classes, and everything mentioned previously) is $600. Or, w/o the LSAT channel, it's $400.

Thoughts?

7Sage is amazing! Signed up for the $179 starter course, and one week in, I am loving it!
You don't get any materials, but there are problem sets and drills after each lesson. You can print them out or just write the answers out. And with the money you'll save you can easily buy materials/practice tests.

Going forward what I would recommend to anyone is:

7Sage starter course
+
The LSAT Trainer

Additional books if you want a different perspective or need to address weaknesses. I'm planning on going through the Manhattan stuff afterwards.

Then of course get your hands on every Actual LSAT you can get. The Trainer uses PT 52-71. 7Sage starter course uses 36-44. You can purchase them online, or a friend of mine torrented every PT 1-74 pdf. Unfortunately he sent them to me after I already spent $100 on buying a bunch of Actual LSATS.

However, some do prefer the in-person advantages. 7Sage does give you analytics to show your weak spots. They also offers a question bank with the Ultimate+ package. But, still, I am sure it is nice to be able to raise your hand and ask a question and get immediate feedback.

Part of me also is a bit biased against Kaplan and TestMasters in-person courses because often I have heard that they are more geared towards teaching the fundamentals and leaving you in charge to really figure out the rest. I'm not sure about how true that is, but it is rare that any of these courses are usually sufficient for those aiming to score in the 170s--at least from what I've heard.

I admit I am certainly biased and really am loving 7Sage. You get A LOTTT for under $200 bucks. JY Ping the founder who teaches the lessons is funny and keeps you engaged with real-life examples and whatnot. It is nice not to be bored going through the lessons.

On the other hand, you may be the type of person that likes the structure and personal feel of the Kaplan course. I think the answer is really going to depend on what you prefer. At the end of the day, most of your progress will come when you are drilling and PT'ing at home. Not from any book, silver bullet, or course.

If only this was the Matrix and I could download the knowledge to ace this test the night before and do it. Haha

I think I'll try out 7sage. For the money, it certainly can't hurt.

Haha! Amen...

I don't think you will regret it one bit. It is really excellent. There is a 14-day money back guarantee, so in the unlikely chance you don't like it, you can get your money back.

Kaplan sucks bro.

7sage >

The friend that I got most of my PT from took a Kaplan in person course and said it wasn't that good. He self studied after that but yeah. He also gave me this Kaplan book that goes through all of the sections and he didn't even use it (neither did I) because it's literally just you doing problem sets without any good explanations as to how to do anything. I mean the book did have explanations for each question, which sucked and didn't explain well, leaving you with a "what the hell am I doing" attitude.

That was mostly a book rant, but still, screw Kaplan ;P btw I now use 7sage and it's really good, except I have Ultimate not the starter but the curriculum is the same for both.

Not a fan of Kaplan myself. 7Sage, on the other hand, is resourceful, even when free; go with it!

TheMikey wrote:Kaplan sucks bro.

7sage >

The friend that I got most of my PT from took a Kaplan in person course and said it wasn't that good. He self studied after that but yeah. He also gave me this Kaplan book that goes through all of the sections and he didn't even use it (neither did I) because it's literally just you doing problem sets without any good explanations as to how to do anything. I mean the book did have explanations for each question, which sucked and didn't explain well, leaving you with a "what the hell am I doing" attitude.

That was mostly a book rant, but still, screw Kaplan ;P btw I now use 7sage and it's really good, except I have Ultimate not the starter but the curriculum is the same for both.

It depends a lot on the quality of the Kaplan instructor that you have. I went with 7Sage, but the sheer resources that Kaplan gives you makes nice - every PT ever released, a q-bank (separated by difficulty, if desired), and the LSAT channel (tought by some guys who scored a 180 on the LSAT). You obviously need to show some ambition to take advantage of all of that.

Now, Kaplan brought my PTs up by 10 points (low-mid 160s). I have some blank PTs and have confidence that 7Sage can take me over the top. Now, its off to find the PTs that I need for 7Sage.