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HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
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What was your score breakdown?
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Also, for how long did you study and what methods did you use?SweetTort wrote:HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
What was your score breakdown?
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HaveMercy wrote:I studied for a really long time, like 6 months I would say using TestMasters. I never get more than 1-2 wrong on LG, but LR ranges from 6-8 and RC 4-6SweetTort wrote:HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
What was your score breakdown?
For June 16:
LG:0
LR: 6
RC: 4
LR: 7
Hmm... I mean, I would retake, because you have a single subject comprising 13/17 missed questions, meaning even a small improvement would lead to massive score gains.
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HaveMercy wrote:Yeah, but do you think its better to apply early rather thank risk the retake? I'm just worried that maybe I don't improve and then I just went through all that toil to just apply later.SweetTort wrote:HaveMercy wrote:I studied for a really long time, like 6 months I would say using TestMasters. I never get more than 1-2 wrong on LG, but LR ranges from 6-8 and RC 4-6SweetTort wrote:HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
What was your score breakdown?
For June 16:
LG:0
LR: 6
RC: 4
LR: 7
Hmm... I mean, I would retake, because you have a single subject comprising 13/17 missed questions, meaning even a small improvement would lead to massive score gains.
If you apply right after receiving your September score, you'll still have a very early app. Even a point bump would make it worth it.
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How is Latino not URM?HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
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T14 your best bet is Northwestern or Boalt
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Think of it this way: the difference between a 166 LSAT and a 170 LSAT could be worth $100k - $200K for you. Isn't that worth spending a few more weeks studying for a test?HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
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Of course you cannot know with certainty that you'll improve. But it seems well worth the risk/investment, doesn't it? The only downside is the free time you would lose while studying for a few weeks during the summer, whereas the upside is huge.HaveMercy wrote:My dilemma is I feel like I hit my peak in regards to LR and don't know if I'll be able to improve that much. You're right though and if it were easy enough to think that if I study all that I'll automatically end up with a 170, i would 100% retake. I have some deciding to do.rpupkin wrote: Think of it this way: the difference between a 166 LSAT and a 170 LSAT could be worth $100k - $200K for you. Isn't that worth spending a few more weeks studying for a test?
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I'm pretty sure it does. Which changes the outcomes drastically.HaveMercy wrote:I'm Cuban. Pretty sure that doesn't apply as URMlawpro82 wrote:How is Latino not URM?HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
T14 your best bet is Northwestern or Boalt
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Re: Should I Retake?
I think TLS conventional wisdom is that the only Latino/Hispanic URMs are Mexican-American and Puerto Rican.Nachoo2019 wrote:I'm pretty sure it does. Which changes the outcomes drastically.HaveMercy wrote:I'm Cuban. Pretty sure that doesn't apply as URMlawpro82 wrote:How is Latino not URM?HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
T14 your best bet is Northwestern or Boalt
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This is ridiculous. Why not Dominican? Guatemalan? Venezuelan? Peruvian? Panamanian? Nicaraguan?poptart123 wrote:I think TLS conventional wisdom is that the only Latino/Hispanic URMs are Mexican-American and Puerto Rican.Nachoo2019 wrote:I'm pretty sure it does. Which changes the outcomes drastically.HaveMercy wrote:I'm Cuban. Pretty sure that doesn't apply as URMlawpro82 wrote:How is Latino not URM?HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
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T14 your best bet is Northwestern or Boalt
Brown is brown when it comes to law school applications. Most people can't tell the difference between a Mexican and a Guatemalan just by looking at them (heck, I have a hard time and I'm Latino and bilingual), so brown itself is underrepresented, not a specific nationality that's represented.
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Re: Should I Retake?
It may be ridiculous, but it's also conventional wisdom. Brown is brown is equivalent to saying that an Aboriginal in Australia is the same as an African from Nigeria is the same as an African American from Idaho. From what I understand is that Mexican-American and Puerto Rican are the only two with an enrollment low enough relative to a significant enough population in the US to be considered underrepresented.lawpro82 wrote:This is ridiculous. Why not Dominican? Guatemalan? Venezuelan? Peruvian? Panamanian? Nicaraguan?poptart123 wrote:I think TLS conventional wisdom is that the only Latino/Hispanic URMs are Mexican-American and Puerto Rican.Nachoo2019 wrote:I'm pretty sure it does. Which changes the outcomes drastically.HaveMercy wrote:I'm Cuban. Pretty sure that doesn't apply as URMlawpro82 wrote:How is Latino not URM?HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
T14 your best bet is Northwestern or Boalt
Brown is brown when it comes to law school applications. Most people can't tell the difference between a Mexican and a Guatemalan just by looking at them (heck, I have a hard time and I'm Latino and bilingual), so brown itself is underrepresented, not a specific nationality that's represented.
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poptart123 wrote:It may be ridiculous, but it's also conventional wisdom. Brown is brown is equivalent to saying that an Aboriginal in Australia is the same as an African from Nigeria is the same as an African American from Idaho. From what I understand is that Mexican-American and Puerto Rican are the only two with an enrollment low enough relative to a significant enough population in the US to be considered underrepresented.lawpro82 wrote:This is ridiculous. Why not Dominican? Guatemalan? Venezuelan? Peruvian? Panamanian? Nicaraguan?poptart123 wrote:He should still apply as Latino. He checked the box on the LSAT and LSAC that says Latino. If they wanna pull him aside during orientation and quiz him on his heritage, that's on them. But seeing as how there's no authority on point, and we live in a society that can't even define gender anymore, then do it, apply as Latino and the school that he matriculates will factor him in as URM in their statistics.Nachoo2019 wrote:I'm pretty sure it does. Which changes the outcomes drastically.HaveMercy wrote:I'm Cuban. Pretty sure that doesn't apply as URMlawpro82 wrote:How is Latino not URM?HaveMercy wrote:I have a 3.85GPA at top 20 public school, 166 LSAT, Latino (not URM). This was my first time taking the LSAT but my highest PT while studying was a 167, so I am relatively happy. Also, I am extremely involved on campus, wrote an honors, thesis, etc.
What chances do I have with these numbers to go T14, and if so, which ones do you think?
Thanks
T14 your best bet is Northwestern or Boalt
I think TLS conventional wisdom is that the only Latino/Hispanic URMs are Mexican-American and Puerto Rican.
Brown is brown when it comes to law school applications. Most people can't tell the difference between a Mexican and a Guatemalan just by looking at them (heck, I have a hard time and I'm Latino and bilingual), so brown itself is underrepresented, not a specific nationality that's represented.
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