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JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:37 pm
by Gifted Hands
Let's discuss another hive mind issue. Not everyone should retake. Further, TLS just assumes that retaking is like some free gift or something. No, studying for it takes mental energy and time- count all the hours you took studying for the second LSAT and multiple by 20 (what you might make waiting tables instead) studying for months to RETAKE an exam that you ALREADY STUDIED for. Unless you just mis bubbled or fucked up a logic game, you probably should not retake. If you scored 2-3 points below your avg, then that's pretty normal and you shouldn't slave away again for a marginal chance of doing better (there's stats that say second-time takers score worse on avg).
Talk about putting in a lot of effort for a slight chance at a few extra $$$ (which you could probably make waiting tables instead of studying for dat retake). That's not a rational bet. I know some one is gonna say "but I scored a 151 my first time, then learned it and made a 170." you could have saved a lot of time by studying for it correctly the first time.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:38 pm
by ronanOgara
Gifted Hands wrote:Let's discuss another hive mind issue. Not everyone should retake. Further, TLS just assumes that retaking is like some free gift or something. No, studying for it takes mental energy and time- count all the hours you took studying for the second LSAT and multiple by 20 (what you might make waiting tables instead) studying for months to RETAKE an exam that you ALREADY STUDIED for. Unless you just mis bubbled or fucked up a logic game, you probably should not retake. If you scored 2-3 points below your avg, then that's pretty normal and you shouldn't slave away again for a marginal chance of doing better (there's stats that say second-time takers score worse on avg).
Talk about putting in a lot of effort for a slight chance at a few extra $$$ (which you could probably make waiting tables instead of studying for dat retake). That's not a rational bet. I know some one is gonna say "but I scored a 151 my first time, then learned it and made a 170." you could have saved a lot of time by studying for it correctly the first time.
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Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:41 pm
by lymenheimer
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:42 pm
by EnderWiggin
Was going to try to make a good faith effort in responding to this mess but I just realized you are the same OP from the recent PSA: Borrowing is Good post so congrats you win whatever award you are going for here this week.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:43 pm
by Good Guy Gaud
not sure I know how to reconcile your title and your OP
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:44 pm
by somethingElse
TLDR
Actually a pretty legit thread bro.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:45 pm
by Rigo
Gifted Hands wrote:Let's discuss another hive mind issue. Not everyone should retake. Further, TLS just assumes that retaking is like some free gift or something. No, studying for it takes mental energy and time- count all the hours you took studying for the second LSAT and multiple by 20 (what you might make waiting tables instead) studying for months to RETAKE an exam that you ALREADY STUDIED for. Unless you just mis bubbled or fucked up a logic game, you probably should not retake. If you scored 2-3 points below your avg, then that's pretty normal and you shouldn't slave away again for a marginal chance of doing better (there's stats that say second-time takers score worse on avg).
Talk about putting in a lot of effort for a slight chance at a few extra $$$ (which you could probably make waiting tables instead of studying for dat retake). That's not a rational bet. I know some one is gonna say "but I scored a 151 my first time, then learned it and made a 170." you could have saved a lot of time by studying for it correctly the first time.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:45 pm
by Gifted Hands
EnderWiggin wrote:Was going to try to make a good faith effort in responding to this mess but I just realized you are the same OP from the recent PSA: Borrowing is Good post so congrats you win whatever award you are going for here this week.
I'm trying to stop the "top law school" arrogant tone into a more humble, state-school friendly atmosphere.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:45 pm
by MKC
You could make what, $30k (I'm being generous here) in the time it takes you to study for a retake? A full ride is worth about $150k, give or take, and can hinge on one LSAT point. There are very few circumstances where a retake doesn't make sense.
Stop giving bad advice.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:46 pm
by MKC
Gifted Hands wrote:EnderWiggin wrote:Was going to try to make a good faith effort in responding to this mess but I just realized you are the same OP from the recent PSA: Borrowing is Good post so congrats you win whatever award you are going for here this week.
I'm trying to stiphen the "top law school" arrogant tone into a more humble, state-school friendly atmosphere.
You should go preach over at
http://www.mediocre-law-schools.com/forums. They'll be more receptive.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:47 pm
by WinterComing
You might want to give this a read:
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 2&t=263904
With respect to the oft-repeated argument that retaking is too much of a hassle or time commitment: How is it possible that you don't have time to study a couple of hours per day for one simple multiple choice test, but you do have time to commit three years to law school?
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:47 pm
by Gifted Hands
MarkinKansasCity wrote:You could make what, $30k (I'm being generous here) in the time it takes you to study for a retake? A full ride is worth about $150k, give or take, and can hinge on one LSAT point. There are very few circumstances where a retake doesn't make sense.
Stop giving bad advice.
I disagree on one lsat point but yea 30k sounds about right
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:49 pm
by EnderWiggin
Good Guy Gaud wrote:not sure I know how to reconcile your title and your OP
and we haven't even gotten to the username
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:49 pm
by MKC
Gifted Hands wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:You could make what, $30k (I'm being generous here) in the time it takes you to study for a retake? A full ride is worth about $150k, give or take, and can hinge on one LSAT point. There are very few circumstances where a retake doesn't make sense.
Stop giving bad advice.
I disagree on one lsat point but yea 30k sounds about right
With my shit GPA, one point was the difference between a full ride and probably nothing. They paid because they were desperate to keep their median that year. $150k for one point, at least in my case, is not an exaggeration.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:50 pm
by ronanOgara
Gifted Hands wrote:EnderWiggin wrote:Was going to try to make a good faith effort in responding to this mess but I just realized you are the same OP from the recent PSA: Borrowing is Good post so congrats you win whatever award you are going for here this week.
I'm trying to stop the "top law school" arrogant tone into a more humble, state-school friendly atmosphere.
I bet you like participation trophies, don't you?
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:50 pm
by MKC
EnderWiggin wrote:Good Guy Gaud wrote:not sure I know how to reconcile your title and your OP
and we haven't even gotten to the username
I just figured he was a masseuse that offered happy endings.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:51 pm
by MKC
ronanOgara wrote:Gifted Hands wrote:EnderWiggin wrote:Was going to try to make a good faith effort in responding to this mess but I just realized you are the same OP from the recent PSA: Borrowing is Good post so congrats you win whatever award you are going for here this week.
I'm trying to stop the "top law school" arrogant tone into a more humble, state-school friendly atmosphere.
I bet you like participation trophies, don't you?
TBF, it's basically impossible to fail out of a decent law school, which kind of makes any JD a participation trophy.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:51 pm
by Gifted Hands
MarkinKansasCity wrote:EnderWiggin wrote:Good Guy Gaud wrote:not sure I know how to reconcile your title and your OP
and we haven't even gotten to the username
I just figured he was a masseuse that offered happy endings.
lol'd. you got me there. also trigger warning next time. why do you assume I'm a he
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:56 pm
by ronanOgara
MarkinKansasCity wrote:ronanOgara wrote:Gifted Hands wrote:EnderWiggin wrote:Was going to try to make a good faith effort in responding to this mess but I just realized you are the same OP from the recent PSA: Borrowing is Good post so congrats you win whatever award you are going for here this week.
I'm trying to stop the "top law school" arrogant tone into a more humble, state-school friendly atmosphere.
I bet you like participation trophies, don't you?
TBF, it's basically impossible to fail out of a decent law school, which kind of makes any JD a participation trophy.
Everyone who plays in an all-star game gets some sort of participation award...
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:57 pm
by Jordan Catalano
MarkinKansasCity wrote:Gifted Hands wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:You could make what, $30k (I'm being generous here) in the time it takes you to study for a retake? A full ride is worth about $150k, give or take, and can hinge on one LSAT point. There are very few circumstances where a retake doesn't make sense.
Stop giving bad advice.
I disagree on one lsat point but yea 30k sounds about right
With my shit GPA, one point was the difference between a full ride and probably nothing. They paid because they were desperate to keep their median that year. $150k for one point, at least in my case, is not an exaggeration.
Wait. how did you figure this out? Admissions told you this? Seems a little odd...
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:58 pm
by Gifted Hands
Jordan Catalano wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:Gifted Hands wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:You could make what, $30k (I'm being generous here) in the time it takes you to study for a retake? A full ride is worth about $150k, give or take, and can hinge on one LSAT point. There are very few circumstances where a retake doesn't make sense.
Stop giving bad advice.
I disagree on one lsat point but yea 30k sounds about right
With my shit GPA, one point was the difference between a full ride and probably nothing. They paid because they were desperate to keep their median that year. $150k for one point, at least in my case, is not an exaggeration.
Wait. how did you figure this out? Admissions told you this? Seems a little odd...
yea he used an anecdote- an implausible one at that in his argument. there's no way for him to know that
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 4:59 pm
by stego
Gifted Hands wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:EnderWiggin wrote:Good Guy Gaud wrote:not sure I know how to reconcile your title and your OP
and we haven't even gotten to the username
I just figured he was a masseuse that offered happy endings.
lol'd. you got me there. also trigger warning next time. why do you assume I'm a he
Because Ben Carson is a guy.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:01 pm
by MKC
Gifted Hands wrote:Jordan Catalano wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:Gifted Hands wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:You could make what, $30k (I'm being generous here) in the time it takes you to study for a retake? A full ride is worth about $150k, give or take, and can hinge on one LSAT point. There are very few circumstances where a retake doesn't make sense.
Stop giving bad advice.
I disagree on one lsat point but yea 30k sounds about right
With my shit GPA, one point was the difference between a full ride and probably nothing. They paid because they were desperate to keep their median that year. $150k for one point, at least in my case, is not an exaggeration.
Wait. how did you figure this out? Admissions told you this? Seems a little odd...
yea he used an anecdote- an implausible one at that in his argument. there's no way for him to know that
LSN exists and it's not difficult to compare outcomes.
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:02 pm
by Gifted Hands
stego wrote:Gifted Hands wrote:MarkinKansasCity wrote:EnderWiggin wrote:Good Guy Gaud wrote:not sure I know how to reconcile your title and your OP
and we haven't even gotten to the username
I just figured he was a masseuse that offered happy endings.
lol'd. you got me there. also trigger warning next time. why do you assume I'm a he
Because Ben Carson is a guy.
I could be someone who admires the book, I could be ben carson, I could be a masseuse. 2 out of those 3 could be women
Re: JUST RETAKE BRO
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:05 pm
by 5558675309
Gifted Hands wrote:
I'm trying to stop the "top law school" arrogant tone into a more humble, state-school friendly atmosphere.
1. Original post: "I am trying to 'stiphen' the TLS arrogant tone into a more humble state-school friendly atmosphere"
2. Edited 'stiphen' to "stop" (presumably after someone arrogantly pointed out that 'stiphen' is not a word)
3. Result: "I am trying to
stop the TLS arrogant tone into a more humble state-school friendly atmosphere"
How does one stop something into something? Perhaps this a grammatical device that is only taught in state schools, and thus we arrogant TLS posters are simply struggling to understand your esoteric method of persuasion.
Obviously, like all issues of uncertainty or ambiguity on TLS, this situation leads to the 100% valid conclusion: retake.