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Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:09 pm
by goldoldman
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Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:27 pm
by SPerez
It certainly doesn't look GOOD, but it's just one thing among a thousand other small things that together influences about 0.01% of the decision at any given school. There is almost never one single thing that's not LSAT or UGPA that will be "THE" thing that makes the decision. I see that, my first thought is that the person is either not a serious student, not a good student (which is different from being "smart"), or both. A grad school C is considered the equivalent of an undergrad F, and B's are more like C's, in most programs so I look at any grad GPA under 3.5 with skepticism absent mitigating factors.

Dean Perez
Texas Tech Law

Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:37 pm
by goldoldman
SPerez wrote:It certainly doesn't look GOOD, but it's just one thing among a thousand other small things that together influences about 0.01% of the decision at any given school. There is almost never one single thing that's not LSAT or UGPA that will be "THE" thing that makes the decision. I see that, my first thought is that the person is either not a serious student, not a good student (which is different from being "smart"), or both. A grad school C is considered the equivalent of an undergrad F, and B's are more like C's, in most programs so I look at any grad GPA under 3.5 with skepticism absent mitigating factors.

Dean Perez
Texas Tech Law
Grad School C being equivalent of a UG F, and B being equivalent of a UG C is certainly an unfair assessment for the grad school that I went to! We took many of the classes with the undergrads, and we did not get a more lenient treatment.

Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:43 pm
by banjo
I had a similar situation (plus didn't finish grad school) and I still think it was the reason I got rejected from H. A strong, succinct, non-whiny addendum would help.

Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:44 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
If it's a hard science like engineering people might have a different reaction, but it is expected in most grad programs that the students get all As, maybe a few Bs.

Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:46 pm
by goldoldman
SPerez wrote:It certainly doesn't look GOOD, but it's just one thing among a thousand other small things that together influences about 0.01% of the decision at any given school. There is almost never one single thing that's not LSAT or UGPA that will be "THE" thing that makes the decision. I see that, my first thought is that the person is either not a serious student, not a good student (which is different from being "smart"), or both. A grad school C is considered the equivalent of an undergrad F, and B's are more like C's, in most programs so I look at any grad GPA under 3.5 with skepticism absent mitigating factors.

Dean Perez
Texas Tech Law
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Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:47 pm
by goldoldman
A. Nony Mouse wrote:If it's a hard science like engineering people might have a different reaction, but it is expected in most grad programs that the students get all As, maybe a few Bs.
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Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:49 pm
by goldoldman
banjo wrote:I had a similar situation (plus didn't finish grad school) and I still think it was the reason I got rejected from H. A strong, succinct, non-whiny addendum would help.
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Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:53 pm
by goldoldman
banjo wrote:I had a similar situation (plus didn't finish grad school) and I still think it was the reason I got rejected from H. A strong, succinct, non-whiny addendum would help.
Did you still do pretty well in terms of admissions?

Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:56 pm
by banjo
goldoldman wrote:
banjo wrote:I had a similar situation (plus didn't finish grad school) and I still think it was the reason I got rejected from H. A strong, succinct, non-whiny addendum would help.
Did you still do pretty well in terms of admissions?
Yeah I slightly underperformed my numbers, but I had some money at all of CCN and things turned out okay. If you end up writing an addendum, I'd be happy to take a look over PM.

Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:02 pm
by goldoldman
banjo wrote:
goldoldman wrote:
banjo wrote:I had a similar situation (plus didn't finish grad school) and I still think it was the reason I got rejected from H. A strong, succinct, non-whiny addendum would help.
Did you still do pretty well in terms of admissions?
Yeah I slightly underperformed my numbers, but I had some money at all of CCN and things turned out okay. If you end up writing an addendum, I'd be happy to take a look over PM.
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Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:06 pm
by goldoldman
banjo wrote:
goldoldman wrote:
banjo wrote:I had a similar situation (plus didn't finish grad school) and I still think it was the reason I got rejected from H. A strong, succinct, non-whiny addendum would help.
Did you still do pretty well in terms of admissions?
Yeah I slightly underperformed my numbers, but I had some money at all of CCN and things turned out okay. If you end up writing an addendum, I'd be happy to take a look over PM.
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Re: Grad Transcript Question

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:25 pm
by SPerez
goldoldman wrote:
SPerez wrote:It certainly doesn't look GOOD, but it's just one thing among a thousand other small things that together influences about 0.01% of the decision at any given school. There is almost never one single thing that's not LSAT or UGPA that will be "THE" thing that makes the decision. I see that, my first thought is that the person is either not a serious student, not a good student (which is different from being "smart"), or both. A grad school C is considered the equivalent of an undergrad F, and B's are more like C's, in most programs so I look at any grad GPA under 3.5 with skepticism absent mitigating factors.

Dean Perez
Texas Tech Law
Should I at least take heart that the cumulative impact of the blemish in question along with "a thousand other small things" will be about 0.01%?
Yes, that's why I said that. This is the kind of thing that Type-A future law students stress about that isn't worth stressing about since there's nothing you can do about it. What's done is done. Many won't even notice it. Others might. You have no control over which happens at what school.

Unless you have a better reason for the C than "Engineering is hard," I wouldn't suggest writing an addendum, but again, in the end the impact on your outcomes of the addendum is unlikely to be significant either way.

Dean Perez
Texas Tech Law