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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by A. Nony Mouse » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:52 am

I must just know very different professors from you, then.

Edit: or all the students were bad at people. But in particular it was the spewing law school that the OP should avoid.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by ihenry » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:07 am

To be fair, OP would almost definitely pull up the grade if they approached the professor before grades were submitted. Doing extra work would be most useful before grades come out. At the current stage, it could be hard to tell. There's still chance, though.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by TrunksFan1 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:08 am

Alright, so let's just assume the D can't be removed and I'm stuck with it then. Any more takes on how it could affect legal employment? I'm interviewing for a couple of positions soon, so I'm afraid it could come up and bite me in the bud. Additionally I have a couple of WXs scattered throughout my history. Overall GPA is a 3.54 now, knocked down from a 3.6. I mistakenly typed it in as a 3.53 (not that it will make much of a difference).

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by Clearly » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:48 am

Its not likely going to impact legal employment at all, any more than any other bad grade at least. Are your employers even requesting transcripts?

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by Dcc617 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:43 am

TrunksFan1 wrote:Alright, so let's just assume the D can't be removed and I'm stuck with it then. Any more takes on how it could affect legal employment? I'm interviewing for a couple of positions soon, so I'm afraid it could come up and bite me in the bud. Additionally I have a couple of WXs scattered throughout my history. Overall GPA is a 3.54 now, knocked down from a 3.6. I mistakenly typed it in as a 3.53 (not that it will make much of a difference).
Are you asking if a D in a random undergrad class will impact your legal career after law school? Because that seems like a silly question to me. How old are you?

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by banjo » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:44 am

TrunksFan1 wrote:Any more takes on how it could affect legal employment? I'm interviewing for a couple of positions soon, so I'm afraid it could come up and bite me in the bud.
You're in undergrad right? Do you mean for paralegal-type positions? I'm actually not sure how those work, but it's more likely to get noticed if it's a recent grade on the transcript they're actually reviewing.

Down the line, no problem.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by lymenheimer » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:57 am

TrunksFan1 wrote:Any more takes on how it could affect legal employment? I'm interviewing for a couple of positions soon, so I'm afraid it could come up and bite me in the bud.
Yea. If you're not careful, that D could get you in the butt. There's not much you can do at this point, just take it lying down.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by jbagelboy » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:45 am

lymenheimer wrote:
TrunksFan1 wrote:Any more takes on how it could affect legal employment? I'm interviewing for a couple of positions soon, so I'm afraid it could come up and bite me in the bud.
Yea. If you're not careful, that D could get you in the butt. There's not much you can do at this point, just take it lying down.
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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by jbagelboy » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:48 am

Did you save a copy of your transcript pre-D? If so, one thing you could do for jobs next year is blast out your resume and undergrad transcript before that D showed up to every job on hour school's hiring website, every employer that's come to campus and left a card, or even just random websites for jobs you want. It's possible they won't ask you to update your transcript and s lot of people don't get grades back until january anyway.

As for law school, yea it's not good, but taking more time off will distance you from a mediocre GPA. Kill the lsat and next semester & you can still get some juicy T14 scholarships.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by totesTheGoat » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:11 pm

Getting a D is an auto-ding. You literally cannot even get consideration for a T1 school or a legal position if you have a D. The computer that receives the applications simply filters your application out and deletes it.

*slides undergrad transcript with F on it under the rug*

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by TrunksFan1 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:22 pm

Yes, I meant for legal employment in the interim, not after law school. Exactly, paralegal type positions. Some ask for a transcript some haven't, but then again some have only a 3.3 Gpa requirement, so I exceed that at least.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by TrunksFan1 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:24 pm

the other thing that has been irking me is that I neatly fell into NYU's 25th % Gpa wise, which left everything up to the LSAT, and this knocked me down a notch. Like I said, I can probably get back into the 3.6 range next semester, but we shall see what we see I guess

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by landshoes » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:28 pm

Go to your dean of students (or similar) with proof, on paper, of your family situation. Ask to have the grade changed to an incomplete, ask how to approach it with the professor. Approach the professor. Have a decent-to-good essay for that class ready to go. Say you loved the class and just fell down because of the family issue. DO NOT say you need the grade for law school. Make it about your personal desire to finish this excellent learning opportunity, and your respect for the effort that the professor put into the classwork s/he assigned.

Then ask if your grading scale can be changed to Pass / Fail so the prof doesn't have to put any effort into grading your essay, s/he just has to pass you.

To me, what looks bad about this isn't so much the D. It's the lack of communication with the prof/dean of students.

Assuming you don't get it changed (which is bad) then it might affect you, yes. Obsessing about that is going to do absolutely nothing for you. Thinking about something that you refuse to try to change, or can't change, is a huge waste of your time.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by PoopyPants » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:27 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:I must just know very different professors from you, then.

Edit: or all the students were bad at people. But in particular it was the spewing law school that the OP should avoid.
It just depends. I've had both happen. I took two courses online while on deployment. I had to take my finals at a laundromat in Singapore. Needless to say, the Internet connection was so bad that I couldn't complete the finals (they were in MatLab). One professor offered to let me retake it, put in a complaint to MatLab (which got the system changed), and then changed my grade anyway when I couldn't retake (we got tasked with a special op that put us out of communication for over a week, after grades were due). The other professor basically said "sucks to be you." Luckily, I had an A in that course anyway.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by salander » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:35 pm

PoopyPants wrote:It just depends. I've had both happen. I took two courses online while on deployment. I had to take my finals at a laundromat in Singapore. Needless to say, the Internet connection was so bad that I couldn't complete the finals (they were in MatLab). One professor offered to let me retake it, put in a complaint to MatLab (which got the system changed), and then changed my grade anyway when I couldn't retake (we got tasked with a special op that put us out of communication for over a week, after grades were due). The other professor basically said "sucks to be you." Luckily, I had an A in that course anyway.
Do you think the other professor basically said "sucks to be you" because you already had an A in that class?

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by PoopyPants » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:36 pm

salander wrote:
PoopyPants wrote:It just depends. I've had both happen. I took two courses online while on deployment. I had to take my finals at a laundromat in Singapore. Needless to say, the Internet connection was so bad that I couldn't complete the finals (they were in MatLab). One professor offered to let me retake it, put in a complaint to MatLab (which got the system changed), and then changed my grade anyway when I couldn't retake (we got tasked with a special op that put us out of communication for over a week, after grades were due). The other professor basically said "sucks to be you." Luckily, I had an A in that course anyway.
Do you think the other professor basically said "sucks to be you" because you already had an A in that class?
Possibly, but he didn't say as much. My grade only went down to a B+ in the other course.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by ihenry » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:33 am

PoopyPants wrote:
salander wrote:
PoopyPants wrote:It just depends. I've had both happen. I took two courses online while on deployment. I had to take my finals at a laundromat in Singapore. Needless to say, the Internet connection was so bad that I couldn't complete the finals (they were in MatLab). One professor offered to let me retake it, put in a complaint to MatLab (which got the system changed), and then changed my grade anyway when I couldn't retake (we got tasked with a special op that put us out of communication for over a week, after grades were due). The other professor basically said "sucks to be you." Luckily, I had an A in that course anyway.
Do you think the other professor basically said "sucks to be you" because you already had an A in that class?
Possibly, but he didn't say as much. My grade only went down to a B+ in the other course.
I do believe some profs will verbally decline you but secretly they'd do the adjustment. I once neglected the notice that we had to limit our answers to two pages per question and anything beyond that will be left unread -- I saw this half a second before turning in the exam. I went far over that, including unimportant introductions, huge blanks between subquestions, etc. I emailed the prof immediately and he said no, out of "fairness" for others. Turned out that I got an A-, and if the prof truly stood by his words I'd be thankful for a B.

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Re: Got a D in a course

Post by PoopyPants » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:52 am

ihenry wrote:
PoopyPants wrote:
salander wrote:
PoopyPants wrote:It just depends. I've had both happen. I took two courses online while on deployment. I had to take my finals at a laundromat in Singapore. Needless to say, the Internet connection was so bad that I couldn't complete the finals (they were in MatLab). One professor offered to let me retake it, put in a complaint to MatLab (which got the system changed), and then changed my grade anyway when I couldn't retake (we got tasked with a special op that put us out of communication for over a week, after grades were due). The other professor basically said "sucks to be you." Luckily, I had an A in that course anyway.
Do you think the other professor basically said "sucks to be you" because you already had an A in that class?
Possibly, but he didn't say as much. My grade only went down to a B+ in the other course.
I do believe some profs will verbally decline you but secretly they'd do the adjustment. I once neglected the notice that we had to limit our answers to two pages per question and anything beyond that will be left unread -- I saw this half a second before turning in the exam. I went far over that, including unimportant introductions, huge blanks between subquestions, etc. I emailed the prof immediately and he said no, out of "fairness" for others. Turned out that I got an A-, and if the prof truly stood by his words I'd be thankful for a B.
To be clear, the prof who said "tough shit" didn't do anything, but he didn't really have to. The prof who helped me out a lot said he would.

ETA: I have nothing against the prof. I actually enjoyed the course, and he was always reasonable about the course (since I was taking it on deployment, there were times where I had to turn assignments in late, which he totally understood and didn't dock me any points--I have had professors who couldn't care less about deployments, etc).

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