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Most schools seem to be only interested in things I've done after high school but I know it is somewhat popular to include Eagle Scout on resumes.

Does anyone have an opinion on whether I should include it?

Thanks

BillyBickle wrote:Most schools seem to be only interested in things I've done after high school but I know it is somewhat popular to include Eagle Scout on resumes.

Does anyone have an opinion on whether I should include it?

Thanks

The people I work with, for the most part, are bottom-tier engineers (I had no idea I was the only one who had a decent GPA until I was recruiting at a career fair). I've found out from looking at a ton of resumes for recruitment and promotion considerations that those who put eagle scout on their resume generally had to use it to take up space. I don't know if maybe that' just a coincidence, but to me, it seems like a filler instead of an important life accomplishment (although at the time you got it, it was quite commendable)

I would include it on both LS apps and, when you eventually get to it, on job apps

NoLongerALurker wrote:I would include it on both LS apps and, when you eventually get to it, on job apps

C'mon man don't troll on topics, these kids don't know any better.

NoLongerALurker wrote:I would include it on both LS apps and, when you eventually get to it, on job apps

And your basis?

OP, odds are, if you are only 1-2 years out of college, you cannot justify a resume longer than 1 page. Do you really have nothing you find more important or relevant to your apps than eagle scout? List it on the accomplishments page in your app where you basically get to add little things such as that which are not exactly the most important accomplishments ever in your life, but somewhat indicative of your work ethic

sjp200 wrote:

NoLongerALurker wrote:I would include it on both LS apps and, when you eventually get to it, on job apps

And your basis?

OP, odds are, if you are only 1-2 years out of college, you cannot justify a resume longer than 1 page. Do you really have nothing you find more important or relevant to your apps than eagle scout? List it on the accomplishments page in your app where you basically get to add little things such as that which are not exactly the most important accomplishments ever in your life, but somewhat indicative of your work ethic

Personally, I think Eagle Scout is one of the rare pre-university accolades that could be on a professional resume (I don't think we should categorically rule out pre-university accomplishments, such as being the national spelling bee or cross country champion, or being a black belt in a martial art). It would definitely stand out a lot more to me than someone being on the staff of their college newspaper or an officer in their fraternity/sorority. Having interviewed a lot of people for jobs in the past, beyond the technical competence I'm just looking for someone I can comfortably talk with, and being an Eagle Scout is something a lot of people would respect and could lead to interesting conversations - and if you happen to have your resume reviewed by another former scout it could definitely help connect. Besides, it probably wouldn't even add another line to your resume, so not sure what the above-alleged spatial issue is about.

kartelite wrote:

sjp200 wrote:

NoLongerALurker wrote:I would include it on both LS apps and, when you eventually get to it, on job apps

And your basis?

OP, odds are, if you are only 1-2 years out of college, you cannot justify a resume longer than 1 page. Do you really have nothing you find more important or relevant to your apps than eagle scout? List it on the accomplishments page in your app where you basically get to add little things such as that which are not exactly the most important accomplishments ever in your life, but somewhat indicative of your work ethic

Personally, I think Eagle Scout is one of the rare pre-university accolades that could be on a professional resume (I don't think we can categorically rule out pre-university accomplishments, such as being the national spelling bee or cross country champion). It would definitely stand out a lot more to me than someone being on the staff of their college newspaper or an officer in their fraternity/sorority. Having interviewed a lot of people for jobs in the past, beyond the technical competence I'm just looking for someone I can comfortably talk with, and being an Eagle Scout is something a lot of people would respect and could lead to interesting conversations - and if you happen to have your resume reviewed by another former scout it could definitely help connect. Besides, it probably wouldn't even add another line to your resume, so not sure what the above-alleged spatial issue is about.

Wouldn't add another line to his resume? Then where would it go? Would it magically appear and then go away after being read and be replaced with something else? Every line matters, and everything gets its own line. So I'm not sure where you are missing the spatial issue. The fact is, a national spelling bee champion would put that in the accomplishments, not a resume for law school. Cross Country champion in high school? Absolutely not on a resume or even accomplishments page. This is not a job application, this is a law school application, and while they have similar elements, they are worlds apart.

OP, you have to be economical on your resume. Something like eagle scout can be listed in your accomplishments without being in your resume. The chance of an improvement on returns you have on listing that in comparison to academic or employment related work is not worth the space.

sjp200 wrote:
Wouldn't add another line to his resume? Then where would it go? Would it magically appear and then go away after being read and be replaced with something else? Every line matters, and everything gets its own line. So I'm not sure where you are missing the spatial issue. The fact is, a national spelling bee champion would put that in the accomplishments, not a resume for law school. Cross Country champion in high school? Absolutely not on a resume or even accomplishments page. This is not a job application, this is a law school application, and while they have similar elements, they are worlds apart.

OP, you have to be economical on your resume. Something like eagle scout can be listed in your accomplishments without being in your resume. The chance of an improvement on returns you have on listing that in comparison to academic or employment related work is not worth the space.

I said it probably wouldn't add another line - this is because "Eagle Scout" takes up about 1/8th of a line in a word document, and if you put in under an Honors/Awards/Other section, it likely wouldn't cause a wrap to a new line.

I did say "professional" resume, since it seemed like you were talking about general resume length and content. I totally disagree about things being unrelated to academics or work needing to be left off, though I agree it's less important to have on an academic than a job resume - but seeing "Eagle Scout" is something a lot of people at all stages of life will find impressive, and IMO it is definitely a soft worth mentioning. Personally, I've found that people take a real interest in "other" items. I was a competitive college athlete (various national-level honors) and it has led to a lot of conversations about my sport, and I've done considerable traveling/working overseas so I've had "international travel" as an interest, which has prompted questions about my favorite place, recommendations, etc.

Take for example Mike Bloomberg - guy has done a lot of impressive stuff, graduating from Harvard Business School, starting Bloomberg, being mayor of NYC...what's his first accomplishment listed on the "About Mike" tab at http://www.mikebloomberg.com/about? Becoming an Eagle Scout. I'd say he has done plenty of noteworthy stuff, and his team still thought his scouting accomplishment was one of the highlights.

I had a recruiter (from a BigLaw firm) tell a bunch of us that they dont "give a Sh**t" if you were an eagle scout. But I had an interview where all the employer wanted to do was talk about my project because their son was doing it at that moment. Honestly if it is only taking one line I dont see how it would hurt.

What you need to realize is that it isnt that special given that it was so long ago and MANY law students are eagle scouts. Dont make it a focus and you should be good

put that shit on there, astronauts are eagle scouts (but no one gives a fuck what gazebo you built for your local church)

Honestly you could almost put it in your interests e.g. "Public Service (Eagle Scout)"

barkschool wrote:put that shit on there, astronauts are eagle scouts (but no one gives a fuck what gazebo you built for your local church)

Haha my service project did involve beautification of a local church.

kartelite wrote:
I said it probably wouldn't add another line - this is because "Eagle Scout" takes up about 1/8th of a line in a word document, and if you put in under an Honors/Awards/Other section, it likely wouldn't cause a wrap to a new line.

One thing per line. That's how resumes work. You don't write a paragraph under a section and then write in complete sentences what your accomplishments are. If you are going to listen to someone with this kind of idea of how to make a resume at all, go for it, put eagle scout right under king of space.

I put eagle scout as an accomplishments/awards (or sometimes I list National Eagle Scout Association under activities/memberships) on every resume, even post law school. Normally those are just comma separated lists, so it doesn't take up space. As far as I see it there are two types of people in American business:

1. People who vaguely associate Eagle Scouts with something good, but ignore it on a resume,
2. People, mostly old white men, other Eagles, or overly ambitious parents of teenage boys (I.e. Vastly over represented demographics in corporate America), who get drunk on images of the all-American boot-strapping cashing in on a life of consistent work ethic.

In other words, it can help but it can't hurt.

I don't think I put it on mine, but I was out of school a while and had other things to put on my resume. FWIW, I only got my job out of UG (E-Discovery consultant) because the recruiter saw the Eagle Scout line and thought 'why not give this kid an interview.' If you've got literally nothing else, it's a one-line filler item that doesn't hurt to add.

Capitol_Idea wrote:I don't think I put it on mine, but I was out of school a while and had other things to put on my resume. FWIW, I only got my job out of UG (E-Discovery consultant) because the recruiter saw the Eagle Scout line and thought 'why not give this kid an interview.' If you've got literally nothing else, it's a one-line filler item that doesn't hurt to add.

pretty sure it's on our linkedin though #creeper

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Capitol_Idea wrote:I don't think I put it on mine, but I was out of school a while and had other things to put on my resume. FWIW, I only got my job out of UG (E-Discovery consultant) because the recruiter saw the Eagle Scout line and thought 'why not give this kid an interview.' If you've got literally nothing else, it's a one-line filler item that doesn't hurt to add.

pretty sure it's on our linkedin though #creeper

I know you meant "your" but the "our" just makes it that much creepier.

Capitol_Idea wrote:

Hand wrote:

Capitol_Idea wrote:I don't think I put it on mine, but I was out of school a while and had other things to put on my resume. FWIW, I only got my job out of UG (E-Discovery consultant) because the recruiter saw the Eagle Scout line and thought 'why not give this kid an interview.' If you've got literally nothing else, it's a one-line filler item that doesn't hurt to add.

pretty sure it's on our linkedin though #creeper

I know you meant "your" but the "our" just makes it that much creepier.

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