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Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:20 pm
by dontrogerthat
I am 1/2 white and 1/2 PR. I was planning on putting both races on my applications. Recently I was talking to a friend who goes to a top 10 law school. He said he only put that he was african american even though he was only 1/4 AA and 3/4 white since it helps in admissions. He said I should just put PR on mine and if I put White and PR it may hurt a little in comparison. Any feedback on that? Would i get in trouble to just put PR down?

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:26 pm
by 071816
do this if you want to begin your legal career by making ETHICALLY DUBIOUS decisions typically only made by individuals who are MORALLY BANKRUPT like your friend

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:36 pm
by dontrogerthat
chimp wrote:do this if you want to begin your legal career by making ETHICALLY DUBIOUS decisions typically only made by individuals who are MORALLY BANKRUPT like your friend
He was making it seem more like a business transaction as to why not increase your chances as much as possible. But I agree it does seem shady. Thanks.

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:40 pm
by 071816
dontrogerthat wrote:
chimp wrote:do this if you want to begin your legal career by making ETHICALLY DUBIOUS decisions typically only made by individuals who are MORALLY BANKRUPT like your friend
He was making it seem more like a business transaction as to why not increase your chances as much as possible. But I agree it does seem shady. Thanks.
yea man. you most likely wouldn't "get in trouble" per se, but I would just be as honest as possible and let the chips fall where they may. just put both down (it's not like you have to allocate percentages to each). at the end of the day you'll feel better about yourself as a human.

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:44 pm
by lacrossebrother
There's nothing morally, procedurally, ethically, or legally wrong with indicating that you're Hispanic from Puerto Rico. Most Hispanics are white anyways.

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:46 pm
by 071816
lacrossebrother wrote:There's nothing morally, procedurally, ethically, or legally wrong with indicating that you're Hispanic from Puerto Rico. Most Hispanics are white anyways.
I think op is saying they are half anglo white and half pr

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:15 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
It's fine. The consensus here is to put down what you identify as - 1/2 [insert race or ethnicity here] "counts" just as much as 100%.

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:20 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
The US govnt and probably LSAC separate Hispanic as an ethnicity now (compared to race), so all PRs would identify as Hispanic and white.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are doing this now

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:38 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
Mack.Hambleton wrote:The US govnt and probably LSAC separate Hispanic as an ethnicity now (compared to race), so all PRs would identify as Hispanic and white.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are doing this now
That is how the government does it. (Could be Hispanic and black or Hispanic and native, of course.)

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:40 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:The US govnt and probably LSAC separate Hispanic as an ethnicity now (compared to race), so all PRs would identify as Hispanic and white.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are doing this now
That is how the government does it. (Could be Hispanic and black or Hispanic and native, of course.)
I know but I think LSAC is doing it too now

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:43 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
Mack.Hambleton wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:The US govnt and probably LSAC separate Hispanic as an ethnicity now (compared to race), so all PRs would identify as Hispanic and white.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are doing this now
That is how the government does it. (Could be Hispanic and black or Hispanic and native, of course.)
I know but I think LSAC is doing it too now
I would imagine, but I'm too lazy to check.

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:14 am
by Mack.Hambleton
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Mack.Hambleton wrote:The US govnt and probably LSAC separate Hispanic as an ethnicity now (compared to race), so all PRs would identify as Hispanic and white.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they are doing this now
That is how the government does it. (Could be Hispanic and black or Hispanic and native, of course.)
I know but I think LSAC is doing it too now
I would imagine, but I'm too lazy to check.
Me too

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:51 pm
by FirmBiz
dontrogerthat wrote:I am 1/2 white and 1/2 PR. I was planning on putting both races on my applications. Recently I was talking to a friend who goes to a top 10 law school. He said he only put that he was african american even though he was only 1/4 AA and 3/4 white since it helps in admissions. He said I should just put PR on mine and if I put White and PR it may hurt a little in comparison. Any feedback on that? Would i get in trouble to just put PR down?
If u want to identify as PR, which you are, it shouldn't matter what your actual racial breakdown is

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:48 pm
by Paul Campos
Until 2009 LSAC divided Hispanics into Mexican-American, Puerto Rican, and everybody else. After that they started treating Hispanic as a unitary category, which is how it's reported now on the 509s and by the ABA. I suspect this means the conventional wisdom that only MAs and PRs get a big URM boost among Hispanics is now significantly out of date and inaccurate, since schools have no administrative incentive to limit affirmative action among Hispanic applicants in this way.

Re: Should I put both of my races down?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:51 pm
by 071816
Paul Campos wrote:Until 2009 LSAC divided Hispanics into Mexican-American, Puerto Rican, and everybody else. After that they started treating Hispanic as a unitary category, which is how it's reported now on the 509s and by the ABA. I suspect this means the conventional wisdom that only MAs and PRs get a big URM boost among Hispanics is now significantly out of date and inaccurate, since schools have no administrative incentive to limit affirmative action among Hispanic applicants in this way.
sup paul?