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What school did you take the course at?

edit: What was the score, i.e. first, 2:1, or 2:2?

Call LSAC. I took a non-undergrad course to obtain a professional "certificate" and forgot to drop out and got an F. LSAC told me I didn't have to report it to schools.

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FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Call LSAC. I took a non-undergrad course to obtain a professional "certificate" and forgot to drop out and got an F. LSAC told me I didn't have to report it to schools.

Thank you so much for your reply! I'll email them now.
If you don't mind me asking one more question, in case they do tell me that it is up to me to report, do you also think that the low grades can only have an adverse impact on my application?

zcjthb6 wrote:

fredfred wrote:What school did you take the course at?

Thank you for your reply.

I did it at the University of Law-
GDL is not offered by the usual universities e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, etc, but by private institutions and the University of Law and BPP Law are the two main GDL providers.

And a pass is equivalent to a 2:2 which is why I am really worried about...
(you sound like you know about the British system! thank god!)

Ah okay yeah I spent some time at Oxbridge and got my masters from the other Oxbridge I wasn't at previously. So it took me a long time to figure out the scores. A 2:2 won't sink you but yeah if you can not report it that would probably be the best thing.

Also when the LSAC makes a report they will just put the 2:2 into their conversion which is like average or above average (not sure in the 2:2 case). So it wont even show up as like a 2.0 GPA, rather just average/above average/ excellent (in the 2:1 or 1st).

zcjthb6 wrote:

FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:Call LSAC. I took a non-undergrad course to obtain a professional "certificate" and forgot to drop out and got an F. LSAC told me I didn't have to report it to schools.

Thank you so much for your reply! I'll email them now.
If you don't mind me asking one more question, in case they do tell me that it is up to me to report, do you also think that the low grades can only have an adverse impact on my application?

I would probably call instead of email. Calling puts the LSAC employee on the spot and makes them blurt out an answer, which will, if you word your question correctly, probably be in your favor. If you email them they will have to consult a rulebook and will be very deliberate about the response, which could, I think, be against your desired outcome.

If you have to report this, it will certainly tarnish your application. But I only think it could demonstrably hurt your chances if you are on the bubble at a certain school or in a tie with a candidate with the same GPA/LSAT as you. At the end of the day grad school GPAs don't really count for much.

fredfred wrote:

zcjthb6 wrote:

fredfred wrote:What school did you take the course at?

Thank you for your reply.

I did it at the University of Law-
GDL is not offered by the usual universities e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, etc, but by private institutions and the University of Law and BPP Law are the two main GDL providers.

And a pass is equivalent to a 2:2 which is why I am really worried about...
(you sound like you know about the British system! thank god!)

Ah okay yeah I spent some time at Oxbridge and got my masters from the other Oxbridge I wasn't at previously. So it took me a long time to figure out the scores. A 2:2 won't sink you but yeah if you can not report it that would probably be the best thing.

Thank you so much for your input. I really appreciate it, especially coming from someone who knows our grading system!
Can I also just ask if you provided any addendum, etc explaining the UK grading system?

zcjthb6 wrote:

fredfred wrote:

zcjthb6 wrote:

fredfred wrote:What school did you take the course at?

Thank you for your reply.

I did it at the University of Law-
GDL is not offered by the usual universities e.g. Oxford, Cambridge, etc, but by private institutions and the University of Law and BPP Law are the two main GDL providers.

And a pass is equivalent to a 2:2 which is why I am really worried about...
(you sound like you know about the British system! thank god!)

Ah okay yeah I spent some time at Oxbridge and got my masters from the other Oxbridge I wasn't at previously. So it took me a long time to figure out the scores. A 2:2 won't sink you but yeah if you can not report it that would probably be the best thing.

Thank you so much for your input. I really appreciate it, especially coming from someone who knows our grading system!
Can I also just ask if you provided any addendum, etc explaining the UK grading system?

I just put it at the end of a sentence in my personal statement- like I received a 1st in X at X, which translates to a 4.0 GPA. That short.

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benwyatt wrote: The advantage of an email is you can point back to it later, something you can't do with a phone call.

Definitely an advantage. But I'd rather have them say that reporting isn't necessary on the phone than have them say reporting is necessary by email. I suppose it's a personal choice of cost/benefit.

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benwyatt wrote:

FloridaCoastalorbust wrote:

benwyatt wrote: The advantage of an email is you can point back to it later, something you can't do with a phone call.

Definitely an advantage. But I'd rather have them say that reporting isn't necessary on the phone than have them say reporting is necessary by email. I suppose it's a personal choice of cost/benefit.

I see your point.
I'm just thinking about when it turns out reporting was necessary and the only response you have is "Well I talked to Jim on the phone 2 years ago and he said it wasn't."

Yea I feel you. That's basically my only excuse if C&F sniffs around in 3 years.

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