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Sorry if this has been posted many times. I couldn't find it by searching. Where can I see the actual breakdown of scores for the US News rankings?

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TheodoreKGB wrote:Hover over the gold icon

Thanks, but that's just giving me the total number. I am curious to see it broken down.

literally who cares

Mack.Hambleton wrote:literally who cares

A little brusque, but yeah. that.

Mack.Hambleton wrote:literally who cares

I do. That's why I asked. I don't understand why the question bothered you so much that you took time out of your day to troll this thread. Please explain the source of your anger.

I would just say put 0 weight into USNWR in general, and specifically whatever their subsection scores for library size or whatever are

Mack.Hambleton wrote:I would just say put 0 weight into USNWR in general, and specifically whatever their subsection scores for library size or whatever are

While I agree about not relying on USNWR, if anything I would think seeing their breakdown would make them slightly better -> i.e., employment score section is useful while a boost in library size can be ignored.

Auxilio wrote:

Mack.Hambleton wrote:I would just say put 0 weight into USNWR in general, and specifically whatever their subsection scores for library size or whatever are

While I agree about not relying on USNWR, if anything I would think seeing their breakdown would make them slightly better -> i.e., employment score section is useful while a boost in library size can be ignored.

I wasn't aware USNWR was in the business of getting 'better'; they're more about slapping the legal field in the face with their opaque/arbitrary as shit rankings dick.

In short, OP, I've yet to see that kind of breakdown posted anywhere. Would be interesting if it were available.

USNWR rankings are shit and if you want employment stats (the only thing that matters) just look at law school transparency

Fred Norris wrote:

Mack.Hambleton wrote:literally who cares

I do. That's why I asked. I don't understand why the question bothered you so much that you took time out of your day to troll this thread. Please explain the source of your anger.

It's important that lurkers and potential applicants see it reaffirmed how little that shit matters.

The U.S. News rankings hate is a beautiful thing. Good work, TLS.

Realizing you're a small shop when are the school's in LST going to get updated?

baal hadad wrote:USNWR rankings are shit and if you want employment stats (the only thing that matters) just look at law school transparency

With caution though, because LST reports employment trickery such as school-funded jobs. I believe UVA is the biggest culprit of that to boost their numbers.

RCSOB657 wrote:Realizing you're a small shop when are the school's in LST going to get updated?

I will have 2014 data up within hours of the ABA releasing it. The problem is the ABA won't be releasing the data for at least a month. End of April is the absolute best case scenario.

usernotfound wrote:

baal hadad wrote:USNWR rankings are shit and if you want employment stats (the only thing that matters) just look at law school transparency

With caution though, because LST reports employment trickery such as school-funded jobs.

Yes, definitely. Look at the red asterisks and then figure out if the types of jobs the school funds make you comfortable or not.

jenesaislaw wrote:

RCSOB657 wrote:Realizing you're a small shop when are the school's in LST going to get updated?

I will have 2014 data up within hours of the ABA releasing it. The problem is the ABA won't be releasing the data for at least a month. End of April is the absolute best case scenario.

Oh my bad I was under the impression ABA sheets for schools are already out.

RCSOB657 wrote:

jenesaislaw wrote:

RCSOB657 wrote:Realizing you're a small shop when are the school's in LST going to get updated?

I will have 2014 data up within hours of the ABA releasing it. The problem is the ABA won't be releasing the data for at least a month. End of April is the absolute best case scenario.

Oh my bad I was under the impression ABA sheets for schools are already out.

Some data, not employment data.

jenesaislaw wrote:

RCSOB657 wrote:

jenesaislaw wrote:

RCSOB657 wrote:Realizing you're a small shop when are the school's in LST going to get updated?

I will have 2014 data up within hours of the ABA releasing it. The problem is the ABA won't be releasing the data for at least a month. End of April is the absolute best case scenario.

Oh my bad I was under the impression ABA sheets for schools are already out.

Some data, not employment data.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Lame how a lot of deposit dates come before the ABAs for last year are up.

ub3r wrote:Lame how a lot of deposit dates come before the ABAs for last year are up.

Yes, this is one of the arguments we made to the ABA when it reconsidered the employment reporting date. (It used to be Feb 15, now it is March 15.) Not only does this move away yet another month from when your loans enter repayment, but it also makes comparing data more difficult without enough additional value to justify the changes.

That said. it's a lost cause and we've abandoned advocacy on the date. In the future, it may come up again if schools start collecting data 3 years out, but even then I don't think it'd be a huge priority.

Why is it taking so long for the info to be published if the reporting date was two weeks ago?

Moneytrees wrote:Why is it taking so long for the info to be published if the reporting date was two weeks ago?

Some things just take time. It used to be almost a year later before the data came out.

I think most of the metrics are in this chart: http://brianhuddleston.blogspot.com/201 ... coded.html

banjo wrote:I think most of the metrics are in this chart: http://brianhuddleston.blogspot.com/201 ... coded.html

That's really cool of you to find. Thanks!


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I don't think these are worthless. The assessment by peers and judges/lawyers is really interested. I thought that Yale would be killing it, but it got the same score as HS.

Maybe I am wrong - but isn't this what counts when it comes to getting hired? The reason why you want to go to HYS instead of Cornell is because those doing the hiring have a better opinion than the aforementioned?