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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:40 am
by Indifference
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Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:47 am
by lawschool1741
No addendum necessary.

They have metrics they need to hit and if they can report an incoming student w/ 177, that's plenty enough for them.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:04 pm
by mvp99
enjoy Yale

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:17 pm
by pylon
mujiali wrote: How badly will the other two scores hurt me? Should I just submit a simple addendum that says I wasn't prepared before my first two takes? What's the best way to go about this?
Not at all. I also wouldn't submit an addendum, unless you had an actual reason (not just lack of preparation). Congrats on the jump!

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:31 pm
by Rigo
mvp99 wrote:enjoy Yale
This is thrown around way too frequently for posters who don't discuss softs at all.

OP, no addendum necessary.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:52 pm
by Indifference
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Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:04 pm
by Rigo
mujiali wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
mvp99 wrote:enjoy Yale
This is thrown around way too frequently for posters who don't discuss softs at all.
OP, no addendum necessary.
As a longtime lurker I completely agree. My sorts make take questionable (k jd), but I am going to blanket the top t14 anyways.
I definitely wasn't trying to dissuade you from applying. In fact, you should definitely apply.
Yale is just such a black box that it's really a pipe dream for everyone. It rejects 180/4.0's every year.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:50 pm
by DetroitRed
If you have a reason (apart from studying more) for the discrepancy, I would write an addendum. Some schools (including Yale) have said explicitly that they want addenda for score discrepancies of 6 points or more.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:53 pm
by KD35
Congrats. Whatever school you end up at will love you, no need for an addendum.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:22 pm
by Rigo
DetroitRed wrote:If you have a reason (apart from studying more) for the discrepancy, I would write an addendum. Some schools (including Yale) have said explicitly that they want addenda for score discrepancies of 6 points or more.
Any excuse for TWO lower LSATs would be super flimsy anyways.
LSAT addenda are super unnecessary after the ABA changed the reporting rules to only reporting the higher score.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:29 pm
by Indifference
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Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:32 pm
by Rigo
Don't write an addendum. If schools care (which they won't), they may ask about it in your interview.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:54 pm
by Hutz_and_Goodman
TLS community: link to this thread every time someone in the 160s says they aren't retaking because they can't get higher.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:31 am
by BillsFan9907
Dirigo wrote:
DetroitRed wrote:If you have a reason (apart from studying more) for the discrepancy, I would write an addendum. Some schools (including Yale) have said explicitly that they want addenda for score discrepancies of 6 points or more.
Any excuse for TWO lower LSATs would be super flimsy anyways.
LSAT addenda are super unnecessary after the ABA changed the reporting rules to only reporting the higher score.
You're applying to Yale and you had an undiagnosed thyroid condition causing extreme fatigue and mental fogginess after engaging in focused activites for a prolonged period of time. You had poor insurance. Following getting the proper insurance from Obamacare, you got a score better reflecting your abilities.

I suspect Yale would want to hear that.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:44 am
by sparty99
mujiali wrote:I took the LSAT there times this cycle. I scored a dismal 163, followed by a crushing 164 retake. I got the shock of my life when the December score came back as a 177.

How badly will the other two scores hurt me? Should I just submit a simple addendum that says I wasn't prepared before my first two takes? What's the best way to go about this?

FWIW I have a 3.87 lsdas GPA.
Good luck at Yale, dude.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:22 am
by Rigo
:mrgreen:

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:30 am
by Mack.Hambleton
good luck at Princeton, bro

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:27 am
by twenty
Dirigo wrote:
sparty99 wrote: Good luck at Yale, dude.
Dude, no.
no offense, but I sort of don't see why you're so worked up about this. just mentally translate it to "great work on your LSAT, enjoy your life." it's pretty unlikely that people (maybe excluding sparty?) are being willfully dense, or that applicants are so emotionally fragile that if they don't get yale after some putz on TLS told them to "enjoy it" that they'll slit their wrists or something.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:20 pm
by Moneytrees
He's probably a lock at any school except Yale. Still has a solid chance of getting in though.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:49 pm
by pylon
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Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:58 am
by musedreverie
No addendum necessary, unless you had an excellent reason.

I jumped 9 points between retakes, didn't write addenda to any schools, and topic of my LSAT scores, retakes, the jumps etc. didn't come up in any of my interviews.

And great job on your December resit, what a fantastic present it must have been on the new year's!

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:50 am
by Indifference
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Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:48 pm
by kfb2112
Just an FYI: I was a 167, 180 so I looked into this quite a bit. Nearly every good school explicitly says that if your score increases a substantial amount they want an addendum. Perhaps as some suggest they don't really care and just want to maximize scores, but even so, ignoring explicit instructions would be a mistake. I highly suggest you write one.

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:01 am
by Indifference
kfb2112 wrote:Just an FYI: I was a 167, 180 so I looked into this quite a bit. Nearly every good school explicitly says that if your score increases a substantial amount they want an addendum. Perhaps as some suggest they don't really care and just want to maximize scores, but even so, ignoring explicit instructions would be a mistake. I highly suggest you write one.
I've been looking around but haven't come across explicit instructions anywhere yet. Could you link to any you know of?

Re: 163, 164, 177! addendum?

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:14 am
by superpatton
I have yet to find one sentence on a t-14 school's application instructions that requires an addendum. Chicago suggests explaining a large discrepancy in scores on one of their FAQ pages on the website, but nothing on application instructions. I think if schools were that concerned about addendums for score increases they would explicitly say so on their LSAC applications. As it stands though just remember that the rankings only require schools to submit the higher score.