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Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:34 pm
by berkeley_eecs
Hey all,
A little background about me, berkeley eecs with a maybe double major in english, freshman, no known gpa 3.5?, taking 20+ units every semester planned, may finish in 2.5 years without english, 3.5 years with
Is it possible to spam community college courses during the summer to get a higher LSAC calculated gpa? Also what's the weight given towards engineering majors with worse gpas (been getting some mixed answers ranging from no weight to "3.5 in ee is a golden ticket"
Thanks
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:51 pm
by MistakenGenius
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Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:56 pm
by Dr. Review
MistakenGenius wrote:Just sit back and have fun in undergrad and come back later.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:13 pm
by lhanvt13
Re: CC courses to raise GPA. It works. I took 30 credits over my last summer and raised my GPA by .3.
Courses ranged from keyboarding ~ introductory math for engineering ~ intro calculus. FYI I have a degree in computer science and just took all the easiest math courses. Law schools don't give a damn
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:38 pm
by berkeley_eecs
Thanks for the replies guys, but yeah that's what I meant by getting mixed replies. At the end of the day it wouldn't really be 'padding' my GPA as they're somewhat required courses, just far easier done at CC. So even though berkeley's engineering department is well known for GPA deflation @2.77 average and our eecs is ranked 1-3 depending where you look, they don't care? (figured IP and such would play a more favorable tone towards an electrical engineering&computer science major
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Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:46 pm
by fats provolone
they don't care. especially if you're sub 3.0.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:51 pm
by berkeley_eecs
I don't think that'll be a problem, it's just hitting the high 3.9's that seems pretty tough. being 3.5 places one in the top 10% already for eecs. So at the end of the day
tldr;
GPA calculations with CC courses taken is what i'm really asking
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:58 pm
by Rigo
If you're smart/lucky, you will actually get an engineering job and avoid law school.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:00 pm
by lhanvt13
3.0 GPA in basket weaving = 3.0 GPA in EE/CS/anything to everything. Might as well strip you resume of everything but 3 numbers: LSAT and GPA and # of work experience.
That's how law school recruiting works.
BUT your IP background helps more for dat JERB
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:01 pm
by lhanvt13
Dirigo wrote:If you're smart/lucky, you will actually get an engineering job and avoid law school.
Eng jobs suck. Go into IT consulting for Accenture or something and go into their federal practice. Make a cushy amount of cash and work 9-5
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:05 pm
by berkeley_eecs
Alright I think I got the general idea of how this works now too. So if I were to take CC courses that'd be a good way to boost GPA.
So it's really just GPA and LSAT. Then what's stopping someone from going to a CC and getting a 4.0 (one that grants a bachelor's) and going hard on the LSAT and scoring a 172 vs attending a school that's known to be hard?
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:06 pm
by whitespider
berkeley_eecs wrote: Then what's stopping someone from going to a CC and getting a 4.0 (one that grants a bachelor's) and going hard on the LSAT and scoring a 172 vs attending a school that's known to be hard?
Literally nothing. Some people do that.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:06 pm
by Jchance
If I was you, first, I'd spread my hard classes out over 4-5 years and make sure to ace all of them. This includes planning my semesters to take the required courses with professors, get to know upperclassmen to find out when those easy profs teach. Secondly, when you decide your path whether to go EE or CS, please for the sake of god, pick EE. In IP, EE>>CS. Third, take CC classes to pad GPA, thats the TCR. Otherwise, go drink for 4 more years then come back later.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:12 pm
by berkeley_eecs
So is there no benefit to finishing in 3 years? Also forgive me but what does TCR mean?
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:14 pm
by fats provolone
whitespider wrote:berkeley_eecs wrote: Then what's stopping someone from going to a CC and getting a 4.0 (one that grants a bachelor's) and going hard on the LSAT and scoring a 172 vs attending a school that's known to be hard?
Literally nothing. Some people do that.
except for, you know, the quality of education. gaming the system is cool but the prize at the end is that you're a lawyer which is a pretty shitty prize.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:23 pm
by heythatslife
fats provolone wrote:whitespider wrote:berkeley_eecs wrote: Then what's stopping someone from going to a CC and getting a 4.0 (one that grants a bachelor's) and going hard on the LSAT and scoring a 172 vs attending a school that's known to be hard?
Literally nothing. Some people do that.
except for, you know, the quality of education. gaming the system is cool but the prize at the end is that you're a lawyer which is a pretty shitty prize.
That, and if the law school plan doesn't work out or you change your mind, you may be stuck with an unemployable major/degree. Personally, I think it's a terrible decision for someone not yet in college to pick a school or a major based on the assumption that he/she will apply to law schools 4+ years down the road.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:24 pm
by berkeley_eecs
well i mean i am in eecs here haha the acceptance rate was somewhat in the 7%'s
anyways does anyone know what TCR means?
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:32 pm
by heythatslife
TLS lingo, short for "the credited response" i.e. correct answer.
EECS might negatively impact your GPA but once you get to law school, you're going to have a wider range of jobs available to you than most other law students because of that STEM degree.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:32 pm
by EricHosmer
berkeley_eecs wrote:well i mean i am in eecs here haha the acceptance rate was somewhat in the 7%'s
anyways does anyone know what TCR means?
Some will tell you that TCR means "the correct response" while many others would say that TCR means "don't go to law school."
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:40 pm
by MidwestLifer
Anyone get the feeling this guy is REALLY proud of doing EECS at Berkeley?
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:42 pm
by fats provolone
MidwestLifer wrote:Anyone get the feeling this guy is REALLY proud of doing EECS at Berkeley?
millenials love checking dem boxes
it is a good school though. maybe focus on class
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:42 pm
by Calvin Murphy
berkeley_eecs wrote:well i mean i am in eecs here haha the acceptance rate was somewhat in the 7%'s
anyways does anyone know what TCR means?
TCR means "The Credited Response" (the best answer, essentially).
Also, I got the impression when applying that some schools valued IP majors such that a 3.5 in EE > 3.5 in basket weaving...but I think this is relatively uncommon, and even less common or non-existent in the T14. In any case, the 'bump' is practically insignificant.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:45 pm
by berkeley_eecs
Thanks for the quick reply guys
doing some number crunchy on the spreadsheets I found and with the CC route it doesn't look half bad anymore.
eecs is the best field to be in right now at least from what i've seen
(23k summer internship lined up)
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:47 pm
by Rigo
berkeley_eecs wrote:well i mean i am in eecs here haha the acceptance rate was somewhat in the 7%'s
anyways does anyone know what TCR means?
Hopefully they teach you how to google sophomore year.
But just focus on keeping that gpa up. If CC classes can be used for prerequisites, go for it. If you're adamant about being k-JD (going straight from undergrad to law school), I would start studying for the LSAT the summer before junior year just incase you need time for retakes, etc.
Re: Advice for a noob (Engineering)
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:48 pm
by fats provolone
some internship advice: make a list of all the bullet points you want to put on your resume and make sure you do those things over the summer