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Anecdotally, everyone I know who ED'd got no scholarship whatsoever, regardless of their numbers. TLS groupthink (which I agree with in this case) is that you shouldn't go to law school for sticker anywhere. What cost is actually worth it is highly contextual and up for debate depending on your goals.Joombi wrote:I'm definitely not 100% damn sure that I want Philly biglaw. I'll be applying next cycle so I have a bit of time to think about it, but I guess it really comes down to the retake.
But just how big is the discrepancy in $$? Even anecdotal stuff helps at this point.
Oh, and a more general question, in law schools, can you audit undergraduate courses? Grad students at my current undergrad can, and many of them take a language class at the undergrad, which I'd love to do.
Ah. I think the bolded text makes my decision easy. Sticker is unrealistic for me, so RD it is. Thanks for the help! Also it's cool to see that we can audit classes.ymmv wrote:Anecdotally, everyone I know who ED'd got no scholarship whatsoever, regardless of their numbers. TLS groupthink (which I agree with in this case) is that you shouldn't go to law school for sticker anywhere. What cost is actually worth it is highly contextual and up for debate depending on your goals.Joombi wrote:I'm definitely not 100% damn sure that I want Philly biglaw. I'll be applying next cycle so I have a bit of time to think about it, but I guess it really comes down to the retake.
But just how big is the discrepancy in $$? Even anecdotal stuff helps at this point.
Oh, and a more general question, in law schools, can you audit undergraduate courses? Grad students at my current undergrad can, and many of them take a language class at the undergrad, which I'd love to do.
Yes, Penn Law students can audit undergraduate/graduate courses from around the university. You have to get it approved both by the department and the law school, but it's an easy formality.
Yeah, I'm not sure it technically qualifies as "auditing," but whether you take the courses for a grade or pass/fail, it won't be calculated in your law school GPA, even though it does help fulfill graduate credit requirements.Joombi wrote:Ah. I think the bolded text makes my decision easy. Sticker is unrealistic for me, so RD it is. Thanks for the help! Also it's cool to see that we can audit classes.ymmv wrote:Anecdotally, everyone I know who ED'd got no scholarship whatsoever, regardless of their numbers. TLS groupthink (which I agree with in this case) is that you shouldn't go to law school for sticker anywhere. What cost is actually worth it is highly contextual and up for debate depending on your goals.Joombi wrote:I'm definitely not 100% damn sure that I want Philly biglaw. I'll be applying next cycle so I have a bit of time to think about it, but I guess it really comes down to the retake.
But just how big is the discrepancy in $$? Even anecdotal stuff helps at this point.
Oh, and a more general question, in law schools, can you audit undergraduate courses? Grad students at my current undergrad can, and many of them take a language class at the undergrad, which I'd love to do.
Yes, Penn Law students can audit undergraduate/graduate courses from around the university. You have to get it approved both by the department and the law school, but it's an easy formality.
Ron Don Volante wrote:do not ed get out of it asap to rd
the only ED worth doing is Northwestern since it has a full-tuition scholarship attached. but that might not be your best decision, though, especially if you score higher on a retake. anything in the low-mid 170s would make you competitive for a named scholarship.Brut wrote:Ron Don Volante wrote:do not ed get out of it asap to rd
You clearly haven't been here long then.Dirigo wrote:This is by far the most preposterous thread I've seen in awhile.
I'll clarify as "unintentionally preposterous," so as not to include troll threads.ymmv wrote:You clearly haven't been here long then.Dirigo wrote:This is by far the most preposterous thread I've seen in awhile.
I'm sure you are referring to the OP with the 3.89 GPA. How low do you think ones GPA could be and still have your statement be true?transferror wrote:the only ED worth doing is Northwestern since it has a full-tuition scholarship attached. but that might not be your best decision, though, especially if you score higher on a retake. anything in the low-mid 170s would make you competitive for a named scholarship.Brut wrote:Ron Don Volante wrote:do not ed get out of it asap to rd
"anything in the low-mid 170s would make you competitive for a named scholarship."Brut wrote:which part of his statement
3.37, 3+ years out of undergrad (if that matters)Brut wrote:what's your gpa
Figured as much. Thanks for the insight.Brut wrote:unless it's one of those normal awards they turn into a "named award" to please donors and so you can put it on your resume
i have one of those
it's not a real named scholly tho
While I agree that friends and family in the area is not a good enough reason, you don't have to be 100% Philly biglaw to take sticker at Penn over another T14 in a different city. I won't be staying in Philly and the vast majority of my class won't either. That's definitely not the only justification for EDing to Penn.ymmv wrote: "Family and friends in the area" is not a good enough reason to take sticker Penn over $$$ Cornell/NU, if it comes to that, unless you're 100% damn sure you want Philly biglaw at any cost. And even then it's iffy, given how many Philly residents strike out at the Philly biglaw market.
thisBrut wrote:1) indefensible b/c debt-financed sticker is $297,020, according to law school transparency
2) ESPECIALLY indefensible since op is already at medians and 48.6% of the class gets aid, with a median grant of $49,569
3) ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY indefensible b/c lsn data shows that 8% of near-median ED candidates reported receiving aid, compared to 33% of near-median RD candidates