Diversity Statement Questions
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:10 pm
Under what circumstances should those who are white/ white-Non-URM mixed write diversity statements?
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Spot on. Don't think the benefit outweighs the risks here.patogordo wrote:i think it's risky. adcoms are likely to wonder why you would willingly leave the U.S. and put yourself at risk, knowing that your family would suffer greatly if you were murdered.
This is pretty damning, coming from someone who sincerely advocated last week that a upper-middle class white girl from Minnesota should write a diversity statement about working in ITIPmaybe wrote:If you could cover it in your personal statement (unless you are completely redoing the personal statement and are planning on completely ignoring this part of your story), I don't see what writing a separate diversity statement would get you.
makes sense. i would include this argument in your diversity statement so they understand why you're writing it, though.RZ5646 wrote:Question: let's say I'm white but I'm lower-middle class and the first person in my family to go to college. Does that make me diverse?
Seems to me like class has a much greater effect on academic achievement than race, so it's kinda ridiculous that for example Obama's kids would get a URM bonus but the kid from Good Will Hunting would not.
I sincerely don't understand your anger about different opinions of diversity, but either way, I did not advocate anything in that post. I presented a possible scenario that the OP may be able to present in a diversity statement. If you believe that equals advocacy then so be it. I never suggested she should or that it would come out as a great statement. I just pushed back against all of you very angry anti-diversity crowd about a white woman being incapable of being diverse according to law school admissions (when in fact, and in opposition to your thoughts of how diversity works, many law school applications define diversity very broadly). Others in the thread suggested she include those aspects in a personal statement. I happen to agree, if those aspects fit into her personal statement.McAvoy wrote:This is pretty damning, coming from someone who sincerely advocated last week that a upper-middle class white girl from Minnesota should write a diversity statement about working in ITIPmaybe wrote:If you could cover it in your personal statement (unless you are completely redoing the personal statement and are planning on completely ignoring this part of your story), I don't see what writing a separate diversity statement would get you.
basically my scenario too; still wouldn't write about it though. Worry about your numbers instead and everything will take care of itself.RZ5646 wrote:Question: let's say I'm white but I'm lower-middle class and the first person in my family to go to college. Does that make me diverse?
Seems to me like class has a much greater effect on academic achievement than race, so it's kinda ridiculous that for example Obama's kids would get a URM bonus but the kid from Good Will Hunting would not.
This makes me very angryIPmaybe wrote:I sincerely don't understand your anger about different opinions of diversity, but either way, I did not advocate anything in that post. I presented a possible scenario that the OP may be able to present in a diversity statement. If you believe that equals advocacy then so be it. I never suggested she should or that it would come out as a great statement. I just pushed back against all of you very angry anti-diversity crowd about a white woman being incapable of being diverse according to law school admissions (when in fact, and in opposition to your thoughts of how diversity works, many law school applications define diversity very broadly). Others in the thread suggested she include those aspects in a personal statement. I happen to agree, if those aspects fit into her personal statement.McAvoy wrote:This is pretty damning, coming from someone who sincerely advocated last week that a upper-middle class white girl from Minnesota should write a diversity statement about working in ITIPmaybe wrote:If you could cover it in your personal statement (unless you are completely redoing the personal statement and are planning on completely ignoring this part of your story), I don't see what writing a separate diversity statement would get you.
It's the same for this scenario. I believe the OP could write a compelling diversity statement (even as a white male), but why do that if you are going to include it in a personal statement. It's the same for members of the LGBT community. If it's a major plot point in your personal statement, don't be redundant in the diversity statement. They are different yet interrelated stories.
Why? You've been raging against people writing diversity essays on several threads now. What's your deal? If a kid grew up in destitute poverty, worked multiple jobs through high school to afford to even apply to school, and was the first one of his family to get a secondary education, then there's nothing wrong with writing a diversity statement about that, as long as those things haven't been touched in his/her PS.McAvoy wrote:basically my scenario too; still wouldn't write about it though. Worry about your numbers instead and everything will take care of itself.RZ5646 wrote:Question: let's say I'm white but I'm lower-middle class and the first person in my family to go to college. Does that make me diverse?
Seems to me like class has a much greater effect on academic achievement than race, so it's kinda ridiculous that for example Obama's kids would get a URM bonus but the kid from Good Will Hunting would not.
LOL how have I been raging? Please feel free to quote and demonstrate. Also this thread is flame.Moneytrees wrote:Why? You've been raging against people writing diversity essays on several threads now. What's your deal? If a kid grew up in destitute poverty, worked multiple jobs through high school to afford to even apply to school, and was the first one of his family to get a secondary education, then there's nothing wrong with writing a diversity statement about that, as long as those things haven't been touched in his/her PS.McAvoy wrote:basically my scenario too; still wouldn't write about it though. Worry about your numbers instead and everything will take care of itself.RZ5646 wrote:Question: let's say I'm white but I'm lower-middle class and the first person in my family to go to college. Does that make me diverse?
Seems to me like class has a much greater effect on academic achievement than race, so it's kinda ridiculous that for example Obama's kids would get a URM bonus but the kid from Good Will Hunting would not.
Racist bullshit.McAvoy wrote:But I think that, as a general rule, a white kid doing a diversity statement is more of a liability than a potential boost. Fair or unfair, fact of the matter is that race is what is important in getting a diversity boost.
check you supreme court casesgatesome wrote: Law schools already know your race from other parts of your application (unless you choose not to disclose). If they only care about race, there is no need for a diversity statement at all.
patogordo wrote:check you supreme court casesgatesome wrote: Law schools already know your race from other parts of your application (unless you choose not to disclose). If they only care about race, there is no need for a diversity statement at all.