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How does University of Hawai'i at Manoa Law not get more play on this site???

The logic here is simple,... if not HYSCCNP, then might as well go UH.

The law is the law, no matter where you study, amirght?

MrBlueSky! wrote:The logic here is simple,... if not HYSCCNP, then might as well go UH.

i wonder where you attend ls

Brut wrote:

MrBlueSky! wrote:The logic here is simple,... if not HYSCCNP, then might as well go UH.

i wonder where you attend ls

All: I can easily see how easy it is to assume this. But actually, my situation is quite the opposite.

I am not affiliated with UH, or the state of Hawaii for that matter, in any way. Promise.

I graduated undergrad a couple years ago, and have been toying around with the idea of law school since. I've paid attention to the US news rankings and all the hype on where you go (mainly via this site), for the last three years too. Though I clearly understand how every aspiring lawyer has HYS on their mind, I am just trying to throw around a different perspective.

When I first started looking at law schools, before I found TLS or anything beyond LSACs site... I was gonna do Temple or Hawaii.

i wasn't suggesting you go to uh

phillywc wrote:When I first started looking at law schools, before I found TLS or anything beyond LSACs site... I was gonna do Temple or Hawaii.

congrats on NYU!

Can you speak to how your thought process on this evolved?

Brut wrote:i wasn't suggesting you go to uh

No worries. I just wanted to clear the air that theres no conflict of interest in me/UH.

Im just putting out the idea that by applying to UH, one may have the opportunity to get a quality education and have a unique law school experience.

MrBlueSky! wrote:

phillywc wrote:When I first started looking at law schools, before I found TLS or anything beyond LSACs site... I was gonna do Temple or Hawaii.

congrats on NYU!

Can you speak to how your thought process on this evolved?

I found out how learnable the LSAT was and got better at it. As much fun as 3 years in Hawaii would be, law school isn't a vacation and Hawaii doesn't have good jobs numbers.
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/hawaii/2013/
People going there just aren't getting jobs, and those that aren't getting well paying jobs. I've also heard over and over how insular the legal market is, I don't know that some random person from the continental US would easily get a job there.

Plus Greenwich Village is still a pretty great place to spend three years.

MrBlueSky! wrote:

Brut wrote:i wasn't suggesting you go to uh

No worries. I just wanted to clear the air that theres no conflict of interest in me/UH.

Im just putting out the idea that by applying to UH, one may have the opportunity to get a quality education and have a unique law school experience.

Have you ever lived in Hawaii?

MrBlueSky! wrote:How does University of Hawai'i at Manoa Law not get more play on this site???

The logic here is simple,... if not HYSCCNP, then might as well go UH.

The law is the law, no matter where you study, amirght?

But the employment outcomes are not the same no matter where you study. It's not HYSCCNP at one level and everyone else at another.

ok so no one got my jab at penn that's cool tho

TheSpanishMain wrote:

MrBlueSky! wrote:

Brut wrote:i wasn't suggesting you go to uh

No worries. I just wanted to clear the air that theres no conflict of interest in me/UH.

Im just putting out the idea that by applying to UH, one may have the opportunity to get a quality education and have a unique law school experience.

Have you ever lived in Hawaii?

Have never lived in Hawaii.

Originally from the west coast, and have lived in D.C. for three years. The stuffiness has hardly been bearable.

..Also, to phillywc: great point on the LSAT, and job statistics. Plus Greenwich Village is so chill. Well done.

Brut wrote:ok so no one got my jab at penn that's cool tho

Gotta get me some of that T-7 preftige

MrBlueSky! wrote:

TheSpanishMain wrote:

MrBlueSky! wrote:

Brut wrote:i wasn't suggesting you go to uh

No worries. I just wanted to clear the air that theres no conflict of interest in me/UH.

Im just putting out the idea that by applying to UH, one may have the opportunity to get a quality education and have a unique law school experience.

Have you ever lived in Hawaii?

Have never lived in Hawaii.

I've lived in Hawaii. It's not what you're imagining if you're trying to escape DC "stuffiness". Yes, it's physically gorgeous, but it's incredibly insular. Locals > NonLocals in just about everything, and I'm sure the legal economy there is no different. If you're going to go to UH Law, you better be a born and bred local, preferably one who went to Punahou High School. I was there on a federal job, so I didn't really care, but the local networks are incredibly strong in Hawaii, probably more so than just about everywhere in the United States.

hawaii seems like a nice place to retire

TheSpanishMain wrote: I've lived in Hawaii. It's not what you're imagining if you're trying to escape DC "stuffiness". Yes, it's physically gorgeous, but it's incredibly insular. Locals > NonLocals in just about everything, and I'm sure the legal economy there is no different. If you're going to go to UH Law, you better be a born and bred local, preferably one who went to Punahou High School. I was there on a federal job, so I didn't really care, but the local networks are incredibly strong in Hawaii, probably more so than just about everywhere in the United States.

Man, that must have be an obnoxious social dynamic to have to maneuver within...thanks for the heads up.

Is your profile up to date? ...see you've been "accepted" all across the spectrum.

fyi, my plan would be to return mainland for work asap. Compete for "clerkships" and other PI preftigiuousness.

Yeah, good luck with that.

MrBlueSky! wrote:

TheSpanishMain wrote: I've lived in Hawaii. It's not what you're imagining if you're trying to escape DC "stuffiness". Yes, it's physically gorgeous, but it's incredibly insular. Locals > NonLocals in just about everything, and I'm sure the legal economy there is no different. If you're going to go to UH Law, you better be a born and bred local, preferably one who went to Punahou High School. I was there on a federal job, so I didn't really care, but the local networks are incredibly strong in Hawaii, probably more so than just about everywhere in the United States.

Man, that must have be an obnoxious social dynamic to have to maneuver within...thanks for the heads up.

Is your profile up to date? ...see you've been "accepted" all across the spectrum.

fyi, my plan would be to return mainland for work asap. Compete for "clerkships" and other PI preftigiuousness.

Starting to sound like flame, but just in case...

Don't go to Hawaii unless you are from and want to work in Hawaii.

MrBlueSky! wrote:

TheSpanishMain wrote: I've lived in Hawaii. It's not what you're imagining if you're trying to escape DC "stuffiness". Yes, it's physically gorgeous, but it's incredibly insular. Locals > NonLocals in just about everything, and I'm sure the legal economy there is no different. If you're going to go to UH Law, you better be a born and bred local, preferably one who went to Punahou High School. I was there on a federal job, so I didn't really care, but the local networks are incredibly strong in Hawaii, probably more so than just about everywhere in the United States.

Man, that must have be an obnoxious social dynamic to have to maneuver within...thanks for the heads up.

Is your profile up to date? ...see you've been "accepted" all across the spectrum.

fyi, my plan would be to return mainland for work asap. Compete for "clerkships" and other PI preftigiuousness.

It's not really obnoxious...unless you're trying to get a job. Like I said, I had a federal job so I didn't care. There's a lot of nice stuff about Hawaii too. Kua Aina Burger is great.

Profile is up to date, although just to clarify I applied to a lot of places that I wouldn't have otherwise because my wife is active duty military and I was specifically looking at places near bases. Also, that was before I really understood how regional a lot of schools are.

Going to Hawaii to work in mainland PI would be a hilarious mismatch. I think you can safely cross it off your list.

phillywc wrote: Starting to sound like flame, but just in case...

Yeah, Hawaii for mainland PI and clerkships did kind of trip my flame radar, too.

..alright, i got carried away by asserting clerkships was a possibility.

HYSCCN(V)P...UH.

Food for thought.

is bluesky that troll from the other thread who we thought was john1990?
similar typing

I don't know why I'm responding to this, but...
Job placement, outside the top schools, is incredibly regional. UH is pretty much only going to get you a job in Hawaii, and then only for the top of the class since there are about eight legal jobs in the state.

Living in Hawaii is incredibly expensive, the traffic is terrible, and there are tourists everywhere. (I haven't lived there, but a good friend did for several years while her husband was stationed there.)

Brut wrote:is bluesky that troll from the other thread who we thought was john1990?
similar typing

nope. nor was he john1990. they all say dumb things, but otherwise not a lot of similarity.

Food for thought...

Fact: Colin Kaepernick went to the University of Alaba...Nevada.

Does TLS propagate the US News World Report hype? I think so.

Do we know for a fact that TLS is not in bed with the LSAT test-prep company industry?

...food for thought.

But who owns TLS?

...food for thought