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How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:06 pm
by BillsFan9907
I suspect that there has been a thread about this at some point, but I can't find it. I'm just super curious - how do the t4 toilet's generally respond to questions about biglaw placement and federal clerkships?

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:03 pm
by Bilka
Seoulless wrote:I suspect that there has been a thread about this at some point, but I can't find it. I'm just super curious - how do the t4 toilet's generally respond to questions about biglaw placement and federal clerkships?
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Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:05 pm
by whitespider
I would imagine that they most reassuringly point to a graduate from the 70s or 80s that landed biglaw/clerkship and tell you it could happen to you too!

Because they want your money.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:57 pm
by BillsFan9907
Fuck it. I might just do it. I've got some time to kill.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:08 pm
by runinthefront
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Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:13 pm
by minnbills
There are handfuls of students who get those jobs though, so they are probably referred to.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:56 pm
by eriedoctrine
There are some TTTTs (unranked) schools that place ~ 5-10% in biglaw+fedclerk, comparable to some TTs.
Suffolk, John Marshall - Chicago, U of San Francisco, Mississippi College, Northern Kentucky U, Northern Illinois U, and probably a handful more.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:09 pm
by Rigo
eriedoctrine wrote:There are some TTTTs (unranked) schools that place ~ 5-10% in biglaw+fedclerk, comparable to some TTs.
Suffolk, John Marshall - Chicago, U of San Francisco, Mississippi College, Northern Kentucky U, Northern Illinois U, and probably a handful more.
% of Grads who are Federal Clerks or Employed in Firms with 100+ employees
Suffolk 6.7%
John Marshall 4.3%
San Francisco 5.0%
Mississippi 4.8%
Northern KY 4.4%
Northern IL 5.1%

5-10% is a little high. Just wanted to put this out there incase a 0L stumbles upon this and foolishly thinks these are good options for pursuing their BigLaw dreams.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:17 pm
by eriedoctrine
Dirigo wrote:
eriedoctrine wrote:There are some TTTTs (unranked) schools that place ~ 5-10% in biglaw+fedclerk, comparable to some TTs.
Suffolk, John Marshall - Chicago, U of San Francisco, Mississippi College, Northern Kentucky U, Northern Illinois U, and probably a handful more.
% of Grads who are Federal Clerks or Employed in Firms with 100+ employees
Suffolk 6.7%
John Marshall 4.3%
San Francisco 5.0%
Mississippi 4.8%
Northern KY 4.4%
Northern IL 5.1%

5-10% is a little high. Just wanted to put this out there incase a 0L stumbles upon this and foolishly thinks these are good options for pursuing their BigLaw dreams.
Oh yeah, probably 5-7% is probably more accurate.
I don't remember the numbers exactly. I know Suffolk was around 9% in the past.
However if we're going up a level to TTT, then there are many many more in the 7 - 10% range. Duquesne quickly comes to mind.

Edit: Still no reason to attend these schools though. General employment score and tuition is just too ridiculous to consider.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:20 pm
by Rigo
That's more like it! Duquesne 9.3%

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:21 pm
by Rigo
http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org
If only every 0L was forced to look up each school they're considering.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:41 pm
by Colonel_funkadunk
I went to a visit day at u cincy (not T4) a couple years ago bc I was in the area and posed the question and the response I got was "we have a number of grads in large firms so its a definite possibility".

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:51 am
by First Offense
Yeah they'll probably say most people don't come in with that as a goal and instead look to work in public service/small firms but if that's what you want to do our career services will help you do that and blah blah blah alumni network blah blah blah enjoy unemployment.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:57 pm
by TheSpanishMain
Yeah, I imagine it's vague cherrypicking with a little, "Well, most of our students gravitate towards other things, but..."

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:07 pm
by ManoftheHour
They can also spin it and say, "A third of our graduates who end up working in private firms end up in large firms.

Re: How do T4's respond to queries about big law and clerkship

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:58 pm
by MikeJD
federally backed loans make these t-4 possible.