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Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:55 am**

only good answer here is retake. get a 170+ and schools will be throwing $$$ at you

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:56 am**

erec955 wrote:Hey guys,

What do you think my chances are of getting into my top choices (listed below) with a 4.0 GPA and 164 LSAT? I am a double major in English & Political Science (at a small liberal arts school), with pretty good soft factors.

1) Cornell
2) Vanderbilt
3) Georgetown
4) Northwestern

If I get in, I obviously wouldn't get a great deal of scholarship $$ at these schools...So, for my second question, would it be worth it to pay almost sticker price to go to one of these schools, or do you think I could get enough scholarship money at somewhere like Ohio State to make it worth not going to one of my top 4? Also, I live in WV, so I know I could get a full ride to WVU. The tough part is that I am not sure what type of law I want to practice or where I want to live. I guess I am just trying to see what my chances are at getting into my top schools that I listed and if accepted, if it would be worth it to attend them over a school ranked lower where I would have less debt.

Thanks in advance for your help!

You're going to get a lot of people who tell you to retake especially for a shot at those schools. With your GPA a few additional points could mean the difference from sticker debt and a sizeable scholarship

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:58 am**

Retake, and then post in "What are my chances?" where this belongs.

Also, enjoy lawschoolnumbers.com and mylsn.info.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:01 am**

With a 4.0, you are committing a sin by not studying your ass off and retaking.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:45 am**

Retake. The average person increases their LSAT score 3 points when they retake. A mere 3 point increase for you would mean being at median (or perhaps even above, given the declining number of apps) at Cornell and Vanderbilt.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:48 am**

If anyone gives you any advice other than retake, they should be shamed and shunned.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:51 am**

Mullens wrote:If anyone gives you any advice other than retake, they should be shamed and shunned.

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