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Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:27 pm
by blj50
Hi,
I am from the philadelphia area and I am looking at law schools that offer part-time/ evening programs. I graduate from Penn State in may of 2015 and plan to take two years off to become a certified paralegal and work as one. While I am working I want to attend law school part-time. As of now I am looking into temple, Widener and Rutgers.

My question: Is Widener a third tier or fourth tier school and how to find the rankings of schools for free? My top school is widener because the school really works with working students.

Thank you!

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:32 pm
by FSK
You shouldn't go to Widener. http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/widener/ Less than 1/2 of graduates gained employment as lawyers.

Rankings don't mean anything when the employment outcome is that bad.

You arguably shouldn't go to any of those schools, as they're all too expensive with too poor of employment outcomes.

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:35 pm
by Mullens
Any rankings other than by employment scores are meaningless. The distinction between TTT and TTTT doesn't matter at all.

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:37 pm
by 03152016
i'm not falling for it

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:44 pm
by blj50
Mullens wrote:Any rankings other than by employment scores are meaningless. The distinction between TTT and TTTT doesn't matter at all.
Really? I thought 3rd tier is okay. I was told that all first tier, second tier and third tier schools are okay. sigh, is widener fourth?

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:47 pm
by 03152016
this isn't even clever

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:50 pm
by blj50
Brut wrote:this isn't even clever
What do you mean? Help me out

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:30 pm
by Ricky-Bobby
These flame threads are awful and they clog up the forum for people who actually want advice.

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:38 pm
by pancakes3
Rutgers-Camden isn't horrible as long as you're honest with yourself about the chances and caliber of job/pay you'll get upon graduation. Plus, based on the letters I got from them, they're pretty generous with scholarships and getting in-state is as easy as a matter of changing your driver's license and signing a NJ 12 month lease. I'd worry less about the paralegal certification and focus [much] more on getting a good LSAT score.

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:39 pm
by Mullens
blj50 wrote:
Mullens wrote:Any rankings other than by employment scores are meaningless. The distinction between TTT and TTTT doesn't matter at all.
Really? I thought 3rd tier is okay. I was told that all first tier, second tier and third tier schools are okay. sigh, is widener fourth?
TTT=Third Tier Toilet. That should tell you everything you need to know about how it is perceived. Outside of the T14 every school is regional and the only thing that matters is employment prospects. The tiers are just based on the US News rankings which provide little to no value. Here's the methodology.

There are "higher" ranked schools with worse employment outcomes due to the saturation of legal markets and "lower" ranked schools with respectable job numbers. Don't be fooled by crappy marketing and schools gaming the rankings. Use this to look at job scores.

Re: Widener Law School; Is it a third tier or fourth tier?

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:41 pm
by anyriotgirl
blj50 wrote:Hi,
I am from the philadelphia area and I am looking at law schools that offer part-time/ evening programs. I graduate from Penn State in may of 2015 and plan to take two years off to become a certified paralegal and work as one. While I am working I want to attend law school part-time. As of now I am looking into temple, Widener and Rutgers.

My question: Is Widener a third tier or fourth tier school and how to find the rankings of schools for free? My top school is widener because the school really works with working students.

Thank you!
didn't you just tell me you graduated from Penn State in 2013?