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Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:26 pm
by eriedoctrine
How did Notre Dame drop from 166 -> 163 LSAT this year and not even increase their class size? What happened?
Other T25 schools are still holding somewhat steady or a 1 pt drop.
http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/notredame/2013/
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:42 pm
by rahulg91
It was probably due to them not being open to scholly negotiations while their peers (WUSTL, Emory, GW) were more willing to play ball.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:54 pm
by ManoftheHour
rahulg91 wrote:It was probably due to them not being open to scholly negotiations while their peers (WUSTL, Emory, GW) were more willing to play ball.
This. Last year, I believe the cap on scholarships was 20k/yr.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:26 pm
by Tiago Splitter
Many schools walk a pretty thin line with their medians. Once you get below the median target, things tend to drop off very quickly, and if you come up even just 5-10 students short of your target you can see a big drop.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:44 pm
by McAvoy
eriedoctrine wrote:How did Notre Dame drop from 166 -> 163 LSAT this year and not even increase their class size? What happened?
Some professors open class with a prayer. Who wants to deal with that shit?
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:47 pm
by futago
Will_McAvoy wrote:Some professors open class with a prayer. Who wants to deal with that shit?
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 12:55 am
by eriedoctrine
Will_McAvoy wrote:eriedoctrine wrote:How did Notre Dame drop from 166 -> 163 LSAT this year and not even increase their class size? What happened?
Some professors open class with a prayer. Who wants to deal with that shit?
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Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 1:55 am
by ldlamb
Plenty of people
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:13 am
by SnakySalmon
ldlamb wrote:Plenty of people
But not enough evidently.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:15 am
by McAvoy
ldlamb wrote:Plenty of people who got 163s
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:48 am
by UVAIce
Let's be honest, if you had a 50% chance or better at big law from Notre Dame people would be lining up to get in even if the school had a self-flagellation requirement.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:00 am
by SnakySalmon
UVAIce wrote:Let's be honest, if you had a 50% chance or better at big law from Notre Dame people would be lining up to get in even if the school had a self-flagellation requirement.
I think most law students would go for that actually, even without a religious context. Especially without one.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:07 am
by UVAIce
SnakySalmon wrote:UVAIce wrote:Let's be honest, if you had a 50% chance or better at big law from Notre Dame people would be lining up to get in even if the school had a self-flagellation requirement.
I think most law students would go for that actually, even without a religious context. Especially without one.
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Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:14 am
by McAvoy
UVAIce wrote:Let's be honest, if you had a 50% chance or better at big law from Notre Dame people would be lining up to get in even if the school had a self-flagellation requirement.
Yah but it doesn't. You could say this about fucking Cooley or Regent.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:15 am
by Ricky-Bobby
SnakySalmon wrote:UVAIce wrote:Let's be honest, if you had a 50% chance or better at big law from Notre Dame people would be lining up to get in even if the school had a self-flagellation requirement.
I think most law students would go for that actually, even without a religious context. Especially without one.
Hell, I'm self-flagellating right now and Jesus sure as hell isn't in the equation.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:57 am
by JJ123
They didn't make competitive scholarship offers. That's why I didn't end up there.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:11 am
by jk148706
JJ123 wrote:They didn't make competitive scholarship offers. That's why I didn't end up there.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:35 am
by mx23250
ND seems to be a lot more generous with schollys this year, but rumor has it they're planning on having a larger class size than last year while many/most peer schools are reducing their class size to retain medians. Should be interesting to see what happens.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:41 am
by hopeful 0L
I mean, with a 167 I was waitlisted at ND yet ended up with a near full scholarship at WUSTL and several significant scholarships at comparable/arguably better schools. So there's that.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:44 pm
by jenesaislaw
That massive drop is killing the labels on our chart, damn.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:49 pm
by d cooper
WUSTL outplayed them again this cycle. ND was "trying a new strategy" of not negotiating, according to the admissions office.
EDIT: With that said, LSAT medians should not be a factor in the decision on where to attend.
Re: Notre Dame drastic LSAT drop
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:25 pm
by Nonconsecutive
jk148706 wrote:JJ123 wrote:They didn't make competitive scholarship offers. That's why I didn't end up there.
This was definitely my experience last cycle, they pulled some weird shiz and it seems to have cost them.