Top Law Schools

dabigchina wrote:Kids who go to elite law schools tend to do well on the LSAT. Kids who do well on the LSAT tend to do well on the SATs. Kids who do well on the SATs tend to go to elite undergrads.

Outside of a couple super elite schools with bad grade deflation ( Chicago, Princeton) it doesn't matter at all.

Calbears123 wrote:I've read all this stuff about how your undergrad doesn't matter at all when it comes to applying to law school, but when I look at the accepted statistics from top 14 schools it seems something like 60% + all went to very prestigious undergrad. Infact the very top schools was something like 90 to 95%.

Calbears123 wrote:I've read all this stuff about how your undergrad doesn't matter at all when it comes to applying to law school, but when I look at the accepted statistics from top 14 schools it seems something like 60% + all went to very prestigious undergrad. Infact the very top schools was something like 90 to 95%.

dowu wrote: The only things that matter are your GPA and LSAT. You will get into schools that match your numbers no matter what UG you attended. Focus on those two things.

cotiger wrote:Regardless of whether it gives you a marginal boost (I personally don't think it does outside of Columbia), it's not something you can change now, and the possible boost/negative is small and shouldn't affect where you apply.

So don't worry about it.

The only things that matter are your GPA and LSAT. You will get into schools that match your numbers no matter what UG you attended. Focus on those two things.

MistakenGenius wrote:

rayiner wrote:Getting into HYP generally requires a 1500+ SAT (on the 1600 scale), and unsurprisingly people who can get one tend to be able to get high LSAT scores. See Yale's data: http://ucs.yalecollege.yale.edu/sites/d ... istics.pdf.

The average LSAT of Yale seniors applying to law school is 168.5, and alumni is 166.7. I bet the median skews up, at 169 and 167 at least. The schools have lots of grade inflation, so the average GPA for these applicants is 3.71 and 3.59, respectively.

Look at the Harvard stat. The mean Yale UG admit to Harvard law has a 173.4/3.8. These are solid Harvard numbers no matter what school you're coming from.

Isn't there a logical fallacy about only including one data point and ignoring others? Why don't you look at the Yale admits on that same link you posted so confidently? Clearly, with 172.5/3.83, those students are below the normal Yale medians. You can say that this is only the case because they favor their own graduates (which I'll agree with, all law schools do), but that still shows that undergrad does make a difference and thus, matters.

ALTHANI wrote:Would a 3.8 in undergrad be enough to get into Yale? Coming in from Canada. Haven't taken my LSAT yet.

copingtrope wrote:

ALTHANI wrote:Would a 3.8 in undergrad be enough to get into Yale? Coming in from Canada. Haven't taken my LSAT yet.

lawschoolnumbers.com

Enough, but don't get your hopes up.

Anyone have statistics on what percent of HYS classes are from Ivy+SM? I remember reading somewhere that 1/3 of YLS is HY undergrad and over 50% of their class is IVY+Stanford UG.

AR: We do take into account the difficulty and academic rigor of a student’s undergraduate curriculum. Some schools – for example, the U.S. service academies – are notoriously difficult and have strenuous physical requirements alongside the academic ones. A student whom we admit from such a school might have a lower absolute GPA than someone I admit from another school that might be less difficult academically. We have to look at a student’s performance in context. We also value institutional diversity, and like to bring in students from a variety of undergraduate schools. So, if you look at our website, we have students from Scripps College, Bob Jones University, and the University of Pittsburgh, for example, in addition to the “typical” schools you might expect, like Harvard, UVA, and Berkeley.

Victory wrote:Bob Jones University