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in receiving those giant scholarships to T14s (Levy, Rubenstein, Hamilton, etc.)? I look at LSN and it just seems that numbers aren't sufficient and I haven't found enough evidence to believe that softs are necessary. What is it? How do two 171/3.9x type people get such different outcomes? Is this one of those times when LORs, Personal Statements, etc. are important?

URM/very strong softs

james.bungles wrote:URM/very strong softs

How do I get those?



...just kidding. But seriously, do you have any evidence of this? Even anecdotal?

WaltGrace83 wrote:

james.bungles wrote:URM/very strong softs

How do I get those?



...just kidding. But seriously, do you have any evidence of this? Even anecdotal?

just creep on LSN profiles

james.bungles wrote:URM/very strong softs

Not necessarily, though. I know someone who got a named full scholly who was non-urm and just worked a simple job at a dept store (numbers were 173+/4.0)

I've talked with several people who have similar numbers to mine but are significantly outperforming me, and the commonality among their applications that I don't have is strong softs.

8.5 to 9 inches and up gets you a good scholly.

6 and below gets you nothin'.

7 gets you off the wait list if you're up against someone with a 6.
8 gets you off the wait list if you're up against someone with a 7.

10+ get named schollys

so, if anyone is still pondering:

softs definitely don't matter.

eljefe1 wrote:8.5 to 9 inches and up gets you a good scholly.

6 and below gets you nothin'.

7 gets you off the wait list if you're up against someone with a 6.
8 gets you off the wait list if you're up against someone with a 7.

10+ get named schollys

Shiiiiet, let me pop dat ruby.

me and plies are competing for the "Lisa M. Schnitzer Memorial Scholarship" at Stanford.

WaltGrace83 wrote:

james.bungles wrote:URM/very strong softs

How do I get those?



...just kidding. But seriously, do you have any evidence of this? Even anecdotal?

I worked for years as a law school admissions consultant, and I have a lot of anecdotal evidence, both on admits and scholarships. Obviously, I can't provide too much detail due to client privacy issues, but I've had many students well below median admitted and even offered some incentives, one told directly that she was offered a scholarship specifically because of one of her optional essays and another invited for an interview because of his personal statement.

wut?

My dad's friend is an admissions dean and she said it's as easy as "snapchat".

She told me to send her the pic and that she'd get back with my new offer.