I'm not following. Dumb it down for me.Mal Reynolds wrote:"It is easier to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven."FattyMcFatFat wrote:What does this even mean?Mal Reynolds wrote:Jesus was a liberal.
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This is great advice I think we have the finest institution for theological studies in the world - most people would say we've eclipsed Yale Div and Princeton Theological Seminary in terms of our overall quality and rigor of our scholarship as well as scholarly citations. I don't believe we have a single professor who doesn't have a Duke, Yale, Princeton or Oxford PhD everyone is brilliant and you can't help but be amazed by the sheer breadth of their knowledge it's incredible! If your interested in studying Law/Ethics/Theology/Religion etc. it could be a great place to go.hdivschool wrote:Among top law schools I would suggest UVA. I know a fair number (~15-20) of evangelical Christians who attend there. Harvard might also work, as there are generally a handful of evangelical Christians since the class sizes are so large.
If you are interested in concurrently studying theology, I would suggest Duke. The other divinity schools in the t14 (Harvard, Yale, Chicago) are all quite liberal. But even at Duke there will be few professors who share your beliefs. Harvard is near Gordon-Conwell (an evangelical seminary), but I'm not sure whether you can do a joint degree between the two.
Duke Divinity is also a very faithful community - we all take a required year long spiritual formation class, have 2 required field ed placements serving the Church or CPE and begin every class with prayer. However just FYI there are no fundamentalist here so evolutionary anthropology, secular fields like sociology and neuroscience are often assigned readings and fair game just so you know and historical-critical scholarship is very important here so for example you'll find out that the 2 Tim quote you gave earlier wasn't written by the Apostle Paul but rather by a later unknown author "Pseudo-Paul" (as were the other pastoral epistles and possibly Eph. and Col. as well -- there's only 7 undisputed epistles in the Pauline corpus). Likewise you'll find out in your first year Old Testament survey class that Genesis doesn't have 1 but 2 "creation" accounts that were later redacted by the Deuteronmist in the 5th century during the Bablynonian exile who later combined J+E+D+P into what is the Pentatuch (or perhaps some scholars now suggest the Hexatuch with Joshua perhaps included in the earliest historical-critical redactionary corpus). You'll also learn all about the "synoptic problem" in NT and the different periods of scholacastism in Church History and more than you ever wanted to know about Augustinian and Thomistic thought (fyi Augustine and Thomas Aquinas are mentioned in just about every lecture so prepare yourself). So overall historical-critical scholarship is front and center at Duke Div and although you may not think you would appreciate it I think it will rather expand your faith (a la fides quaerens intellectum faith seeking understanding or perhaps Duke's motto eruditio et religio) I would highly recommend a visit - I think you'd bee pleasantly surprised by the richness of this community.
Lastly JD/M.Div or JD/MTS seems like a no-brainer for what your trying to accomplish so consider taking the GRE in addition to the LSAT and apply to Yale, Duke, Vanderbilt and Emory all of which have fantastic programs in both programs.
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Your conflation of libertarianism with conservatism is unfounded.jchiles wrote:You're a moron./quote]
Can you elaborate? I honestly don't know what you're getting at
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It's nice that you're trying to help frame this user's faith in the larger context of known history and religious scholarship.akg144 wrote:So overall historical-critical scholarship is front and center at Duke Div and although you may not think you would appreciate it I think it will rather expand your faith (a la fides quaerens intellectum faith seeking understanding or perhaps Duke's motto eruditio et religio) I would highly recommend a visit - I think you'd bee pleasantly surprised by the richness of this community.
Commendable.
Isn't it obvious that he/she is not ready for it, at this stage of his/her life?
It's so much easier to disregard contemporary biblical analysis, because it's all written by liberals with agendas, than to open your mind and heart.
If OP was looking for a richness of community he/she would not have so many limitations about which school is the right one.
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Yeah, what he said.akg144 wrote:This is great advice I think we have the finest institution for theological studies in the world - most people would say we've eclipsed Yale Div and Princeton Theological Seminary in terms of our overall quality and rigor of our scholarship as well as scholarly citations. I don't believe we have a single professor who doesn't have a Duke, Yale, Princeton or Oxford PhD everyone is brilliant and you can't help but be amazed by the sheer breadth of their knowledge it's incredible! If your interested in studying Law/Ethics/Theology/Religion etc. it could be a great place to go.hdivschool wrote:Among top law schools I would suggest UVA. I know a fair number (~15-20) of evangelical Christians who attend there. Harvard might also work, as there are generally a handful of evangelical Christians since the class sizes are so large.
If you are interested in concurrently studying theology, I would suggest Duke. The other divinity schools in the t14 (Harvard, Yale, Chicago) are all quite liberal. But even at Duke there will be few professors who share your beliefs. Harvard is near Gordon-Conwell (an evangelical seminary), but I'm not sure whether you can do a joint degree between the two.
Duke Divinity is also a very faithful community - we all take a required year long spiritual formation class, have 2 required field ed placements serving the Church or CPE and begin every class with prayer. However just FYI there are no fundamentalist here so evolutionary anthropology, secular fields like sociology and neuroscience are often assigned readings and fair game just so you know and historical-critical scholarship is very important here so for example you'll find out that the 2 Tim quote you gave earlier wasn't written by the Apostle Paul but rather by a later unknown author "Pseudo-Paul" (as were the other pastoral epistles and possibly Eph. and Col. as well -- there's only 7 undisputed epistles in the Pauline corpus). Likewise you'll find out in your first year Old Testament survey class that Genesis doesn't have 1 but 2 "creation" accounts that were later redacted by the Deuteronmist in the 5th century during the Bablynonian exile who later combined J+E+D+P into what is the Pentatuch (or perhaps some scholars now suggest the Hexatuch with Joshua perhaps included in the earliest historical-critical redactionary corpus). You'll also learn all about the "synoptic problem" in NT and the different periods of scholacastism in Church History and more than you ever wanted to know about Augustinian and Thomistic thought (fyi Augustine and Thomas Aquinas are mentioned in just about every lecture so prepare yourself). So overall historical-critical scholarship is front and center at Duke Div and although you may not think you would appreciate it I think it will rather expand your faith (a la fides quaerens intellectum faith seeking understanding or perhaps Duke's motto eruditio et religio) I would highly recommend a visit - I think you'd bee pleasantly surprised by the richness of this community.
Lastly JD/M.Div or JD/MTS seems like a no-brainer for what your trying to accomplish so consider taking the GRE in addition to the LSAT and apply to Yale, Duke, Vanderbilt and Emory all of which have fantastic programs in both programs.
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Okay, I read a little. If Jesus was a liberal --> Jesus was retarded.sublime wrote:FattyMcFatFat wrote:What does this even mean?Mal Reynolds wrote:Jesus was a liberal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
I am sure you can find more information on google as well.
Though it seems abundantly clear that Jesus was not a liberal (as you define it).
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Jesus would have hated capitalism, he criticized the rich, he focused on the poor. Pretty much your standard definition of a liberal.FattyMcFatFat wrote:Okay, I read a little. If Jesus was a liberal --> Jesus was retarded.sublime wrote:FattyMcFatFat wrote:What does this even mean?Mal Reynolds wrote:Jesus was a liberal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
I am sure you can find more information on google as well.
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Capitalism is consistent with charity, liberalism (and especially the communism which your link discusses) is not. I'm not following.Mal Reynolds wrote:Jesus would have hated capitalism, he criticized the rich, he focused on the poor. Pretty much your standard definition of a liberal.FattyMcFatFat wrote:Okay, I read a little. If Jesus was a liberal --> Jesus was retarded.sublime wrote:FattyMcFatFat wrote:
What does this even mean?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
I am sure you can find more information on google as well.
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That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
I'm still lol'ing.FattyMcFatFat wrote:Capitalism is consistent with charity, liberalism is not. I'm not following.
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Not exactly sure what this refers to, but this is what I initially thought (though did not say) when I read your "Jesus was a liberal" comment. Different strokes and stuff I guess.Mal Reynolds wrote:That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
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Yeah you're strokes are just very dumb. The entire life and teachings of Jesus focused on criticizing things conservatives hold most dear.FattyMcFatFat wrote:Not exactly sure what this refers to, but this is what I initially thought (though did not say) when I read your "Jesus was a liberal" comment. Different strokes and stuff I guess.Mal Reynolds wrote:That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
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Few things bring joy to my heart like the thought of the mentally handicapped laughing. The world needs more of this.Mal Reynolds wrote:That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
I'm still lol'ing.FattyMcFatFat wrote:Capitalism is consistent with charity, liberalism is not. I'm not following.
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What do conservatives hold most dear?Mal Reynolds wrote:Yeah you're strokes are just very dumb. The entire life and teachings of Jesus focused on criticizing things conservatives hold most dear.FattyMcFatFat wrote:Not exactly sure what this refers to, but this is what I initially thought (though did not say) when I read your "Jesus was a liberal" comment. Different strokes and stuff I guess.Mal Reynolds wrote:That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
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Doesn't God hate lawyers?
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Good point.sublime wrote:capt_slow wrote:Doesn't God hate lawyers?
Probably, but would you blame him/her/it?
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Pursuit of wealth is probably 9 of the top ten values so I would say that alone outs Jesus on the side of the liberals. He was also pro taxes. See Jesus on what is owed to Caesar.FattyMcFatFat wrote:What do conservatives hold most dear?Mal Reynolds wrote:Yeah you're strokes are just very dumb. The entire life and teachings of Jesus focused on criticizing things conservatives hold most dear.FattyMcFatFat wrote:Not exactly sure what this refers to, but this is what I initially thought (though did not say) when I read your "Jesus was a liberal" comment. Different strokes and stuff I guess.Mal Reynolds wrote:That might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
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I knew there was a reason that I was going to hell, now I know... I hate paying taxes!
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I'm no biblical scholar, but if you're referring to his assertion that one ought "give Caesar what belongs to Ceasar," your assertion that he was "pro taxes" is egregious equivocation. Perhaps you have some other biblical reference in mind?Mal Reynolds wrote:Pursuit of wealth is probably 9 of the top ten values so I would say that alone outs Jesus on the side of the liberals. He was also pro taxes. See Jesus on what is owed to Caesar.FattyMcFatFat wrote:What do conservatives hold most dear?Mal Reynolds wrote:Yeah you're strokes are just very dumb. The entire life and teachings of Jesus focused on criticizing things conservatives hold most dear.FattyMcFatFat wrote:
Not exactly sure what this refers to, but this is what I initially thought (though did not say) when I read your "Jesus was a liberal" comment. Different strokes and stuff I guess.
Also, all black people are criminals. See what I did there?
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Great, now I have to give up all of my money, too... This is not working for me Jesus.FattyMcFatFat wrote:I'm not following. Dumb it down for me.Mal Reynolds wrote:"It is easier to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven."FattyMcFatFat wrote:What does this even mean?Mal Reynolds wrote:Jesus was a liberal.
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So wait... Is President Obama really Jesus?
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That is very clear.FattyMcFatFat wrote: I'm no biblical scholar
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