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supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:08 pm
by willmendel
first, i should apologize if it seems like this topic has been covered. I have read all of the conventional wisdom that says that you should apply later IF you can raise your gpa, but I wonder how much this applies to super splitters who are otherwise ready to apply the first day AND when the gpa boost is pretty marginal?


so I'm currently sitting at a 2.79/173 and gunning for a top 14, really hoping to punch above my weight due to the decline in applications, so I'm not really wondering how this affects schools like georgetown or Northwestern (which I feel like I have at least some shot at regardless of when I apply, within reason). I'm mostly wondering about schools where I have very small chances at, like real reach schools in the mid t-14.

I am trying to petition for a medical retroactive withdrawal from a class from UG, but the paperwork has been dragging on for months now but just got approved but won't be reflected on my official transcript until the fall quarter starts at the end of september. It will take me from a 2.79 to a 2.83.

The question is, does the wisdom of "apply when your GPA is the highest" hold when you're talking about such a small increase, and when you're so far below any school's 25th% either way? Obviously, there are some cases where it would really, help, like getting above a 3.0 or to a schools 25%, or anytime you're above the schools 25%, etc.

Also, as a splitter, I assume there's at least some psychological advantage to applying on the very first day. Is it worth losing this edge, if it's even there?

Thanks!

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:11 pm
by Clearly
You'll likely be WL->Admit either way from NU, everything else is a huge stretch.

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:14 pm
by hephaestus
That's such a small movement that I don't think you have to wait. Are you considering ED UVA? You're a bit below their GPA floor but who knows with the drop in applicants.

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:26 pm
by willmendel
Yeah, I'm considering it (ed uva). I'm still not 100% set on my app strategy yet, but I'm trying to get a sense here of two things: how much it might hurt me to apply a month late as a splitter, and how much a small gpa movement is worth when you're so, so far below most schools floors and 25ths.

I'm getting that the earlier app is worth more?

thanks!

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:32 pm
by Clearly
willmendel wrote:Yeah, I'm considering it (ed uva). I'm still not 100% set on my app strategy yet, but I'm trying to get a sense here of two things: how much it might hurt me to apply a month late as a splitter, and how much a small gpa movement is worth when you're so, so far below most schools floors and 25ths.

I'm getting that the earlier app is worth more?

thanks!
Personally, I'd go with the GPA boost over applying a month earlier. Much later than that, I'd go the other way, IE November, I'd say forget it and apply next week. But if we're talking a month, it won't make a difference. For that matter, that gpa bump won't make a difference either, but at least that's a quantifiable change.

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:19 am
by Robespierre
I had similar numbers.

To get into any T14, you're almost certainly going to have to go WL->A, so applying super early isn't crucial. But on the other hand a jump from 2.79 to 2.83 isn't going to make the difference so waiting is not crucial either. You're debating a minor issue at most. You should just apply as soon as you've got your materials in perfect shape; simple as that.

Consider GULC part-time, by the way.

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:58 pm
by JJ123
What about going outside of T14 with scholarship money and transferring in?

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:21 pm
by heythatslife
JJ123 wrote:What about going outside of T14 with scholarship money and transferring in?
I think there is too much risk in going to a law school while counting on transferring to another one. Who's to guarantee that you will perform in the top 5%, 10%, etc.?

Re: supersplitter: apply 'later' for a slight boost in gpa?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:39 pm
by hephaestus
heythatslife wrote:
JJ123 wrote:What about going outside of T14 with scholarship money and transferring in?
I think there is too much risk in going to a law school while counting on transferring to another one. Who's to guarantee that you will perform in the top 5%, 10%, etc.?
Yes. Most people that try to do this do not pull it off, for obvious reasons.