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Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:41 pm
by I Used to Be a Spy
Thanks for the advice. Decision made.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:44 pm
by sinfiery
Goals with JD?
What would you do in the year off?
Where do you want to work?
Savings? Age? Rough Family wealth estimation?

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:46 pm
by blsingindisguise
Are you pretty set on/ok with starting out in biglaw assuming you get it? If so I say go. You have a very good shot at biglaw and you can pay down a lot of your debt in a few years, then go on to do what you want. Reapply and aim for HYS only if you really want to up your shot at academia, SCOTUS clerkships, that sort of thing.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:05 am
by I Used to Be a Spy
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Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:24 am
by InferenceOptional
I think you'd have better options if you wait. HYS would be nice. The thought of not having to be above median is valuable, and you may get HYS.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:24 am
by SportsFan
I'll be a 2L at Penn. I like Penn a lot. Reapply next year and go to HYS or CCNMVPB for free.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:23 am
by sinfiery
SportsFan wrote:I'll be a 2L at Penn. I like Penn a lot. Reapply next year and go to HYS or CCNMVPB for free.
This.

Given your goals and chances at HYS or CCN with the same scholarship amounts, you should reapply.

You have a chance everywhere and are all but in at HLS which should give you something scholarship wise. CLS/NYU would likely offer 50-75k with a chance at the butler at CLS (half tuition) and named scholarships (full ride) at NYU.

UChi this cycle would give you a full ride if accepted but now that the ruby is gone, its hard to say going forward what will happen.
If not YP'd, everyone but Berkeley and possibly Penn will offer you a full ride for the rest of the T14.

Your goal should be HLS.


This is the best way to maximize placement whilst minimizing risk.

But if you just don't want to work another year and begin law school, UPenn @ that price is a great option. Just not for someone with your numbers.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:26 am
by I Used to Be a Spy
sinfiery wrote:
SportsFan wrote:I'll be a 2L at Penn. I like Penn a lot. Reapply next year and go to HYS or CCNMVPB for free.
This.

Given your goals and chances at HYS or CCN with the same scholarship amounts, you should reapply.

You have a chance everywhere and are all but in at HLS which should give you something scholarship wise. CLS/NYU would likely offer 50-75k with a chance at the butler at CLS (half tuition) and named scholarships (full ride) at NYU.

UChi this cycle would give you a full ride if accepted but now that the ruby is gone, its hard to say going forward what will happen.
If not YP'd, everyone but Berkeley and possibly Penn will offer you a full ride for the rest of the T14.

Your goal should be HLS.


This is the best way to maximize placement whilst minimizing risk.

But if you just don't want to work another year and begin law school, UPenn @ that price is a great option. Just not for someone with your numbers.
Thanks for the advice. That's the way I'm leaning, but of course there's a lot of pressure from family, and friends to take the money at Penn and run.

Sub question, if they're able to increase the $$$ at what point would you say it's worth it to just go. I'm thinking around the 120K mark the opportunity cost of not going starts to outweigh the potential benefits, but I'd be interested in what the rest of you think.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:32 am
by AC Vegas
Just go. Threads like this are dumb. If you can get into Penn your smart enough to figure out what to do without asking a bunch of people on the Internet.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:15 am
by SportsFan
I Used to Be a Spy wrote:
sinfiery wrote:
SportsFan wrote:I'll be a 2L at Penn. I like Penn a lot. Reapply next year and go to HYS or CCNMVPB for free.
This.

Given your goals and chances at HYS or CCN with the same scholarship amounts, you should reapply.

You have a chance everywhere and are all but in at HLS which should give you something scholarship wise. CLS/NYU would likely offer 50-75k with a chance at the butler at CLS (half tuition) and named scholarships (full ride) at NYU.

UChi this cycle would give you a full ride if accepted but now that the ruby is gone, its hard to say going forward what will happen.
If not YP'd, everyone but Berkeley and possibly Penn will offer you a full ride for the rest of the T14.

Your goal should be HLS.


This is the best way to maximize placement whilst minimizing risk.

But if you just don't want to work another year and begin law school, UPenn @ that price is a great option. Just not for someone with your numbers.
Thanks for the advice. That's the way I'm leaning, but of course there's a lot of pressure from family, and friends to take the money at Penn and run.

Sub question, if they're able to increase the $$$ at what point would you say it's worth it to just go. I'm thinking around the 120K mark the opportunity cost of not going starts to outweigh the potential benefits, but I'd be interested in what the rest of you think.
I mean, I think you're at a point where its not a bad decision to go. It'd just be a better decision to wait a year and go to HYS or get a full ride somewhere.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:19 am
by blsingindisguise
If you do want clerkship -> academia you have to be prepared to gun for it, even from HYS. It doesn't just happen cause you kinda feel like it.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:38 am
by hephaestus
AC Vegas wrote:Just go. Threads like this are dumb. If you can get into Penn your smart enough to figure out what to do without asking a bunch of people on the Internet.
I disagree. I'd reapply, especially since OP has a legitimate job lined up for next year.

Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:58 am
by I Used to Be a Spy
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Re: Attend Penn vs. withdraw and reapply

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:07 pm
by I Used to Be a Spy
The poll is a 50-50 tie. I didn't know there were any questions the TLS community was evenly divided on :D