Strong vs Weak softs Forum
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Strong vs Weak softs
What makes a soft strong/weak. I know that being a Rhodes' scholar is a strong soft, but what are some other examples. Is being bilingual (English/Russian)? Founding school clubs? School Senate? Give me some good examples of both please.
- rinkrat19
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Re: Strong vs Weak softs
Strong softs are things that the school can brag about. "Our incoming class includes an Olympic silver medalist, a bestselling author, a founder of a successful social networking site, five Rhodes Scholars, an African child soldier refugee, the first blind woman to climb K2, a decorated Green Beret, a founder of a large-scale non-profit, a professional opera singer, and an Emmy-winning actor."
Average-to-good softs are impressive things that a significant but finite number of other applicants will have. College sports, owning a (boring/small) business, extensive volunteer/charity work, average military experience.
Weak softs are things that a large portion of other applicants have, which really aren't that impressive: Student government, school clubs (unless really remarkable in some way), bilingual.
Average-to-good softs are impressive things that a significant but finite number of other applicants will have. College sports, owning a (boring/small) business, extensive volunteer/charity work, average military experience.
Weak softs are things that a large portion of other applicants have, which really aren't that impressive: Student government, school clubs (unless really remarkable in some way), bilingual.
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Re: Strong vs Weak softs
Schools clubs and school leadership are very weak softs unless your club became a well known non-profit.
Multiple languages can serve as a soft if you work it well into your application/PS/legal focus. I can find you a few hundred facebook friends that are bilingual english/korean or english/chinese from childhood that would mean nothing to adcoms whatsoever.
Moreover, rather than list a bunch of strong softs that would separate you from the law school here, Id say 1) very rare/selective and prestigious/known entities to whic few others can claim to be a part or have done, and 2) use the search function there are hundreds of threads on this
Multiple languages can serve as a soft if you work it well into your application/PS/legal focus. I can find you a few hundred facebook friends that are bilingual english/korean or english/chinese from childhood that would mean nothing to adcoms whatsoever.
Moreover, rather than list a bunch of strong softs that would separate you from the law school here, Id say 1) very rare/selective and prestigious/known entities to whic few others can claim to be a part or have done, and 2) use the search function there are hundreds of threads on this
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Re: Strong vs Weak softs
This would be most impressive! Haharinkrat19 wrote:the first blind woman to climb K2
- rinkrat19
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Re: Strong vs Weak softs
I was just making shit up. But apparently blind people have climbed Everest, at least.Travis12 wrote:This would be most impressive! Haharinkrat19 wrote:the first blind woman to climb K2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Weihenmayer
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Re: Strong vs Weak softs
Try the search function. The short answer is that sorts are good of they are the kind of a thing a school would brag about on their website when profiling their entering students. So TFA, prior military, PhDs etc. No school is going to put "we have a student that was president of the pre law society starting at the law school" in marketing materials.
- Toby Ziegler
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That's awesome. I think it's funny that one of the strong softs you listed was 5 Rhodes Scholars, Yale's 2015 class has 4.rinkrat19 wrote:I was just making shit up. But apparently blind people have climbed Everest, at least.Travis12 wrote:This would be most impressive! Haharinkrat19 wrote:the first blind woman to climb K2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Weihenmayer
OP here is a list of soft factors that the 2015 class at Yale boasts:
http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm
Not all of these are strong softs, however. But you can pick out the ones that are pretty easy (e.g the Rhodes Scholars, fullbright fellows etc...).
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Re: Strong vs Weak softs
Thanks for the link, it was interesting to see what they opted to focus on. Looking back upon my own life with this in mind, I am trying to pick out accomplishments that might fit nicely on such a list, off of the top of my head I can think of:Travis12 wrote:That's awesome. I think it's funny that one of the strong softs you listed was 5 Rhodes Scholars, Yale's 2015 class has 4.rinkrat19 wrote:I was just making shit up. But apparently blind people have climbed Everest, at least.Travis12 wrote:This would be most impressive! Haharinkrat19 wrote:the first blind woman to climb K2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Weihenmayer
OP here is a list of soft factors that the 2015 class at Yale boasts:
http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm
Not all of these are strong softs, however. But you can pick out the ones that are pretty easy (e.g the Rhodes Scholars, fullbright fellows etc...).
- US Marine, enlisted
- Marathon runner
- Masters Degree from evening program at very well known school (earned while working full-time+)
- Over a decade of experience in IT/InfoSec
- Currently managing a Security Operation Center (SOC) for a Federal Government Agency
None of this is earthshaking, but I am hopeful that it will be a bit better than par even among the other nontraditional students aiming for slots in part-time programs in the DC area.