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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:20 pm
by AlexVee
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Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:24 pm
by Bronte
Where do you want to work? What sort of work do you want to do?

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:28 pm
by AlexVee
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Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:30 pm
by smaug_
AlexVee wrote:I'm not entirely sure yet to be honest, I won't be applying until next year, but in the hypothetical situation that both of these options are available to me, I'd probably say that I would like to end up in corporate law.
Come back when you have real options.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:34 pm
by LSATSCORES2012
AlexVee wrote:I'm not entirely sure yet to be honest, I won't be applying until next year, but in the hypothetical situation that both of these options are available to me, I'd probably say that I would like to end up in corporate law.
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http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:37 pm
by AlexVee
Haha thank you for the snide comment.
I have my numbers, and it's realistic, there's nothing like the TLS Trolls, I'm just asking for an opinion, if you don't have an applicable one, feel free to not post.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:39 pm
by Kronk
It's just not realistic, is all.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:41 pm
by AlexVee
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Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:43 pm
by Kronk
AlexVee wrote:
Kronk wrote:It's just not realistic, is all.
How do you mean? My father has a veterans agreement that makes UC's essentially free, I'm not presuming I'm getting a cush scholarship.
Ah, carry on then. I thought you were assuming you'd get a scholarship. Berkeley is very odd with their scholarships. They're not very numbers-related. Their admissions is pretty stupid, they reject a lot of 3.7-9, 172-175 types. Kind of strange.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:44 pm
by BigZuck
You would need to provide way more information, such as that found in the post at the top of the Choosing a Law School subforum.

But don't worry about it until you actually have these options. We are still in this cycle after all. In the meantime, retake.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:44 pm
by AlexVee
Kronk wrote:
AlexVee wrote:
Kronk wrote:It's just not realistic, is all.
How do you mean? My father has a veterans agreement that makes UC's essentially free, I'm not presuming I'm getting a cush scholarship.
Ah, carry on then. I thought you were assuming you'd get a scholarship. Berkeley is very odd with their scholarships. They're not very numbers-related. Their admissions is pretty stupid, they reject a lot of 3.7-9, 172-175 types. Kind of strange.

No I feel you, I should've been more specific, I apologize.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:01 pm
by Ex Cearulo
BigZuck wrote:You would need to provide way more information, such as that found in the post at the top of the Choosing a Law School subforum.

But don't worry about it until you actually have these options. We are still in this cycle after all. In the meantime, retake.
Classic.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:16 pm
by NanaP
Kronk wrote:
AlexVee wrote:
Kronk wrote:It's just not realistic, is all.
How do you mean? My father has a veterans agreement that makes UC's essentially free, I'm not presuming I'm getting a cush scholarship.
Ah, carry on then. I thought you were assuming you'd get a scholarship. Berkeley is very odd with their scholarships. They're not very numbers-related. Their admissions is pretty stupid, they reject a lot of 3.7-9, 172-175 types. Kind of strange.

It seems B is YP'ing....Penn seems to do that a lot too....with those numbers, you
are likely in at H/S..CCN...and they know that..most people would pick Chicago or Columbia over B...

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:22 pm
by AlexVee
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Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:23 pm
by AlexVee
BigZuck wrote:You would need to provide way more information, such as that found in the post at the top of the Choosing a Law School subforum.

But don't worry about it until you actually have these options. We are still in this cycle after all. In the meantime, retake.
I knew there was a perfect forum to post in that I missed, thank you.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:29 pm
by jselson
If you want to do corporate, if you're just at median at HLS, you have a great shot at top Vault firms, and basically a guaranteed biglaw gig, which makes paying sticker not as terrifying of a prospect. And you might get finaid, too. And LIPP is second only to Yale for LRAP. At Berk, there's a real chance you might strike out. People have difficulty choosing between Hamilton/Rubies and HLS. Not Berk. 0L and IMHO, tho.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:33 pm
by LSATSCORES2012
NanaP wrote:
Kronk wrote:
AlexVee wrote:
Kronk wrote:It's just not realistic, is all.
How do you mean? My father has a veterans agreement that makes UC's essentially free, I'm not presuming I'm getting a cush scholarship.
Ah, carry on then. I thought you were assuming you'd get a scholarship. Berkeley is very odd with their scholarships. They're not very numbers-related. Their admissions is pretty stupid, they reject a lot of 3.7-9, 172-175 types. Kind of strange.

It seems B is YP'ing....Penn seems to do that a lot too....with those numbers, you
are likely in at H/S..CCN...and they know that..most people would pick Chicago or Columbia over B...
I see where you're coming from, but it's just a few data points that give that impression. There's no obvious trend of YPing going on at Berkeley, I think they just pay attention to softs a bit more than most schools.

Berkeley (LSAT is y axis, GPA x)
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Penn:
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UVA (this is what heavy YP looks like):
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Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:41 pm
by jselson
LSATSCORES2012 wrote:UVA (this is what heavy YP looks like):
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So YP looks like Russia?

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:58 pm
by Kronk
I don't think it's YPing. Berkeley is just really weird and less numbers oriented, which is why their acceptance rate is so much lower than the other schools you mentioned.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:11 am
by MyNameIsFlynn!
jselson wrote:
LSATSCORES2012 wrote:UVA (this is what heavy YP looks like):
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So YP looks like Russia?
Yes. Berkeley black box looks like China.

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Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:51 am
by Cobretti
HawgDriver wrote:
BigZuck wrote:You would need to provide way more information, such as that found in the post at the top of the Choosing a Law School subforum.

But don't worry about it until you actually have these options. We are still in this cycle after all. In the meantime, retake.
Classic.
:lol:
ETA: If you're talking about the GI Bill from your dad, you'll still get H at mostly free. Private schools with the YRP are essentially free these days. You can check the veteran's thread here to get an idea of the breakdown by school which Craigsan just put together very recently.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:17 am
by AlexVee
jselson wrote:If you want to do corporate, if you're just at median at HLS, you have a great shot at top Vault firms, and basically a guaranteed biglaw gig, which makes paying sticker not as terrifying of a prospect. And you might get finaid, too. And LIPP is second only to Yale for LRAP. At Berk, there's a real chance you might strike out. People have difficulty choosing between Hamilton/Rubies and HLS. Not Berk. 0L and IMHO, tho.
I completely agree, I just wanted some insight, more reassuring than anything, thanks!

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:36 am
by ScottRiqui
Cobretti wrote:
HawgDriver wrote:
BigZuck wrote:You would need to provide way more information, such as that found in the post at the top of the Choosing a Law School subforum.

But don't worry about it until you actually have these options. We are still in this cycle after all. In the meantime, retake.
Classic.
:lol:
ETA: If you're talking about the GI Bill from your dad, you'll still get H at mostly free. Private schools with the YRP are essentially free these days. You can check the veteran's thread here to get an idea of the breakdown by school which Craigsan just put together very recently.
And even if the Yellow Ribbon Program doesn't do much/anything for you (no slot available, or the school's contribution is very low), just the GI Bill's tuition/fees payment and the housing allowance will add up to $105k or more over three years. So yeah - you're not looking at paying sticker anywhere.

ETA - Never mind, just saw that you weren't talking about the GI Bill.

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:39 am
by AlexVee
Cobretti wrote:
HawgDriver wrote:
BigZuck wrote:You would need to provide way more information, such as that found in the post at the top of the Choosing a Law School subforum.

But don't worry about it until you actually have these options. We are still in this cycle after all. In the meantime, retake.
Classic.
:lol:
ETA: If you're talking about the GI Bill from your dad, you'll still get H at mostly free. Private schools with the YRP are essentially free these days. You can check the veteran's thread here to get an idea of the breakdown by school which Craigsan just put together very recently.
Unfortunately it's not the G.I. Bill, but thanks for the info!

Re: HLS at Sticker vs. Berkeley Free

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:47 am
by Cobretti
AlexVee wrote:
Cobretti wrote:
HawgDriver wrote:
BigZuck wrote:You would need to provide way more information, such as that found in the post at the top of the Choosing a Law School subforum.

But don't worry about it until you actually have these options. We are still in this cycle after all. In the meantime, retake.
Classic.
:lol:
ETA: If you're talking about the GI Bill from your dad, you'll still get H at mostly free. Private schools with the YRP are essentially free these days. You can check the veteran's thread here to get an idea of the breakdown by school which Craigsan just put together very recently.
Unfortunately it's not the G.I. Bill, but thanks for the info!
Curious.. what program is it? I know TX and IL have state programs where veterans can attend public schools for free, but I wasn't aware of any CA programs like that.