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wrote:Wisconsin Supreme Court Rules state “[a]n applicant for bar admission shall establish good moral character and fitness to practice law.” Such an applicant must establish, to the satisfaction of the Board of Bar Examiners (BBE), that the applicant possesses the requisite character and fitness. (See SCR 40.06) Note that the burden is on the applicant to establish all necessary qualifications (SCR 40.07) and that the BBE “shall decline to certify the character and fitness of an applicant who knowingly makes a materially false statement of a material fact or who fails to disclose a fact necessary to correct a misapprehension known by the applicant to have arisen in connection with his or her application.” (SCR 40.06(3))

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Thanks for your time in advance.

Danteshek wrote:Disclose and offer to withdraw and/or offer to give up all scholarship funds as the result of your (serious) omission.

NYstate wrote:

leo2013 wrote:Several years ago, I attended a PHD program of Biochem at a top25 graduate school A. I was not doing too well on first year(GPA around 3.3), and I realized to become a scientist was probably not what I wanted. So I withdraw from the school A, and attend another graduate school B and graduated with M.S on computer science.(GPA 3.7)

So this cycle when I applied LS, I didnot choose to disclose this part of my education because I think it would seemed like a PHD fail to Adcomm . Besides, I think, why does it even matter since the TLS wisdom says only uGPA counts when applying LS? Also, when I applied to school B, they told me they don't need transcript from school A; they only wanted to see my undergraduate transcript. Now, after several years of WE as a software engineer, I think it's really irrelevant that I had that short failed attempt with a biochem PHD.

Anyways, now I have offers from several decent LS(one T20 with full ride, and another T14 with some $). But today when a friend with similar situation talked with me , she pointed out that such omission would count as academic dishonesty and would get me expelled.

After doing some research, I think she is right and I am very scared . I am contemplating with several options:
1) I would immediately contact with Schools which admitted me and confess to them and send the omitted transcript to the school or LSAC.
2) I would stay on the dark side and try to do a ferpa-block on school A and hope it may work.
3) I am even thinking of withdraw all my applications out right and try apply next cycle with all my transcripts complete to start with. I mean, if I tell those schools I omitted a transcript now, wouldn't they put me on a black list besides rescind my admission if they think I cheated on them deliberately? In the mean time, I can retake my LSAT in June to improve my chances.

Thoughts/Advices plz. Basically, I want to know the typical reaction of adcomms under this situation. Would they rescind my admission out right? or would they give me a chance and look at my PHD transcript and realize it's nothing major and would keep my acceptance package?

Thanks for your time in advance.

Your best option is to disclose to the schools. I am not sure that withdrawing makes the information on the application disappear. The previous app will be in record.

Personally, I don't think it will hurt you. If it does, there is nothing you can do about it, because you have to disclose this information. Maybe you can ask if you can withdraw if it becomes an issue.

Spend some time figuring out how you are going to explain this. I would go with something like I made a mistake and didnt disclose this program because I didn't complete my degree.

Redfactor wrote:
Okay, so I am lifting another finger.

The BEST thing you can do is to openly air it out to the law schools. NYState was exactly right when he mentioned the possiblity of adcomms reading this thread. And your post can't be totally edited when it's quoted already, so the cat is out of the bag.

HONESTY is the best policy here, imo. In any event, you can't hide if forever and if you try, it will just result in financial ruin. So you may as well just bite the bullet and fess up, like today. If I were you, I would write a very official email to them disclosing the inaccuracy within your application and they will either work with you or not.

I haven't sat for a bar, but it seems like things can be overlooked if you're honest. Especially since you haven't been to law school so you don't quite understand the legalities of what you did.

leo2013 wrote:Several years ago, I attended a PHD program which I withdrawed , and attended another graduate school and finished with a M.S on another subject . When I applied LS this cycle, I didnot disclose this part of my education. (Part of me was thinking wishfully that education w/o a degree earned doesn't count. ) Anyways, now I have offers from several decent LS. But today when a friend with similar situation talked with me , she pointed out that such omission would count as academical dishonesty and would get me expelled. After doing some research, I think she is right and I am very scared .

Thoughts/Advices plz. Basically, I want to know the typical reaction of adcomms under this situation. Would they rescind my admission out right? or would they give me a chance and look at my PHD transcript and realize it's nothing major and would keep my admission as it is?

Thanks for your time in advance.

[edit] I admit what I did was wrong . I just want to know how to fix it or even if it's fixable at all. Even if the LS adcomm forgive me, would it come back haunt me when Bar C&F finds out that I didnot disclose that transcript initially? Or it's not too late to confess? Part of me want to call it quits and stay with my current uninspiring job to avoid further humiliation. Sigh.

WaltWhite wrote:

leo2013 wrote:Several years ago, I attended a PHD program which I withdrawed , and attended another graduate school and finished with a M.S on another subject . When I applied LS this cycle, I didnot disclose this part of my education. (Part of me was thinking wishfully that education w/o a degree earned doesn't count. ) Anyways, now I have offers from several decent LS. But today when a friend with similar situation talked with me , she pointed out that such omission would count as academical dishonesty and would get me expelled. After doing some research, I think she is right and I am very scared .

Thoughts/Advices plz. Basically, I want to know the typical reaction of adcomms under this situation. Would they rescind my admission out right? or would they give me a chance and look at my PHD transcript and realize it's nothing major and would keep my admission as it is?

Thanks for your time in advance.

[edit] I admit what I did was wrong . I just want to know how to fix it or even if it's fixable at all. Even if the LS adcomm forgive me, would it come back haunt me when Bar C&F finds out that I didnot disclose that transcript initially? Or it's not too late to confess? Part of me want to call it quits and stay with my current uninspiring job to avoid further humiliation. Sigh.

Agreed, you're current uninspiring grammatical skills (or lack thereof) are humiliation enough.

leo2013 wrote:withdrawed

A. Nony Mouse wrote:To be fair, it sounds kinda like English isn't the OP's first language.

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:

A. Nony Mouse wrote:To be fair, it sounds kinda like English isn't the OP's first language.

Fluent in CheatingAsshole though.

toothbrush wrote:

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:

A. Nony Mouse wrote:To be fair, it sounds kinda like English isn't the OP's first language.

Fluent in CheatingAsshole though.

being unethical transcends language

A. Nony Mouse wrote:To be fair, it sounds kinda like English isn't the OP's first language.

WaltWhite wrote:

A. Nony Mouse wrote:To be fair, it sounds kinda like English isn't the OP's first language.

Regardless. Various law schools explicitly explained on their applications how much they value clear, concise writing. What was posted above is neither clear nor concise, and I think we can safely assume no firm will let such an apparent lack of grammatical foresight slide by.

This shall sound harsh, but whatever. One can be a lawyer anywhere. It seems kind of silly to pursue a legal career in a country whose language you consistently butcher.

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
(Just saying there's plenty of reason for scorn without resorting to attacks on the grammar. )