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What's going on here?
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:40 pm
by dscgrant
It's been a very weird cycle for me. Was wondering if anyone has experienced the same thing.
3.55 GPA
169 Oct
174 Dec
Submitted all apps except Yale around Jan 9th. Results so far:
Yale - ? (though you can guess how it will turn out)
Harvard - Deny 3rd week March
Stanford - Deny 3rd week March
Columbia - Held 1st week March, still waiting
Chicago - Currently UR 3/27
NYU - UR 1/14 (you're killing me)
Berkeley - Deny late 1st week March
Penn - Currently UR 3/23
Virginia - Waitlisted 3rd week March
Michigan - Waitlisted 4th week March
Duke - Waitlisted 4th week March
Northwestern - Accepted April, $90k Scholarship
Georgetown - Interviewed two days ago
Cornell - Interview requested
UCLA - silence
UT - Accepted 2nd week March, no news on $$$
Vanderbilt - Accepted late April, $25k a year
USC - Accepted 3rd week March, NO $$$
Minnesota - Accepted late April early march, full ride
I know this is an extraordinary cycle, but I feel like I'm getting a colder shoulder from everyone than I should. Except Northwestern, which is really confusing me! They were the first school to accept me, and except for Minnesota, they have given me more money than anyone else.
The only difference I can think of is that they only took one letter of recommendation. Is it possible that I was screwed by my second recommender, or did I just apply to late?
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:43 pm
by seespotrun
dscgrant wrote:It's been a very weird cycle for me. Was wondering if anyone has experienced the same thing.
3.55 GPA
169 Oct
174 Dec
Submitted all apps except Yale around Jan 9th. Results so far:
Yale - ? (though you can guess how it will turn out)
Harvard - Deny 3rd week March
Stanford - Deny 3rd week March
Columbia - Held 1st week March, still waiting
Chicago - Currently UR 3/27
NYU - UR 1/14 (you're killing me)
Berkeley - Deny late 1st week March
Penn - Currently UR 3/23
Virginia - Waitlisted 3rd week March
Michigan - Waitlisted 4th week March
Duke - Waitlisted 4th week March
Northwestern - Accepted April, $90k Scholarship
Georgetown - Interviewed two days ago
Cornell - Interview requested
UCLA - silence
UT - Accepted 2nd week March, no news on $$$
Vanderbilt - Accepted late April, $25k a year
USC - Accepted 3rd week March, NO $$$
Minnesota - Accepted late April early march, full ride
I know this is an extraordinary cycle, but I feel like I'm getting a colder shoulder from everyone than I should. Except Northwestern, which is really confusing me! They were the first school to accept me, and except for Minnesota, they have given me more money than anyone else.
The only difference I can think of is that they only took one letter of recommendation. Is it possible that I was screwed by my second recommender, or did I just apply to late?
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
Accepted late April...
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:52 pm
by Tiago Splitter
You're numbers are in the range where these kinds of results can happen. But congrats on the Northwestern scholly, and best of luck there next year.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:54 pm
by sinfiery
Probably because you applied late. You will see movement come deposit dates. Only takes one tho, who cares. Gratz.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:02 am
by jvincent11
I don't see anything weird about your cycle. You have a low GPA, but Northwestern tends to not care about that. The others school do, at least in the initial rounds of decisions.
Like the others said, ride it out and you should get into more T14, not sure if you can beat 90K at NU though....
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:50 am
by chadbrochill
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Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:58 am
by TripTrip
That's not a weird cycle for your numbers, OP.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:09 am
by beepboopbeep
TripTrip wrote:That's not a weird cycle for your numbers, OP.
Isn't it? 173/3.61 late applicant here, and in at CLS/NYU($$), held at H and still under review at a lot of these other places. But OP's undergrad institution may come into play; mine was known for fighting grade inflation and being generally pretty tough.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:18 am
by TripTrip
beepboopbeep wrote:TripTrip wrote:That's not a weird cycle for your numbers, OP.
Isn't it? 173/3.61 late applicant here, and in at CLS/NYU($$), held at H and still under review at a lot of these other places. But OP's undergrad institution may come into play; mine was known for fighting grade inflation and being generally pretty tough.
You're performing on the higher end of your numbers. Plus, OP's GPA is probably out of range at some schools.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:25 am
by fallingup
it's also only March...
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:44 am
by 20141023
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Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:15 pm
by PRgradBYU
TripTrip wrote:That's not a weird cycle for your numbers, OP.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:18 pm
by ManOfTheMinute
Regulus wrote:You didn't get in because of any combination of the following reasons:
-Submitted application later in the cycle
-Very low GPA (<3.6) but not extremely high LSAT (>177)
-Issues with application (shitty PS, unimpressive resume, bad LoRs, typos, etc.)
I have money on the last one
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:30 am
by dscgrant
Should I just upload my application here?
I think I'm mostly surprised over NYU. I thought I had a much better chance after looking at LSN. As far as work experience and my undergraduate institution, I worked abroad for a few years as an English teacher, and went to a really tiny liberal arts school nobody has heard of. While there definitely isn't grade inflation at my school, I don't think any school would know that or would care to find out.
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. It's good to hear that my results don't look that strange. I'm extremely happy about NU, obviously (hold strong chadbrochill!). Still, I think I'll see where NYU goes and perhaps ride out the waitlist.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:58 am
by TripTrip
dscgrant wrote:I think I'm mostly surprised over NYU. I thought I had a much better chance after looking at LSN.
I know it's not really talked about much over in the NYU thread, but anecdotally there are still some traditionally solid candidates that haven't heard back from NYU yet. I'm a 175/4.0/public service record with no word. My cycle has been strange too, but NYU must be doing something other than looking at the numbers.
Though, do you happen to have a minor C&F violation? I've got a random traffic ticket, and from what I've seen NYU takes a long time to evaluate anyone who checks a C&F box.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:11 pm
by PGOAT
TripTrip wrote:dscgrant wrote:I think I'm mostly surprised over NYU. I thought I had a much better chance after looking at LSN.
I know it's not really talked about much over in the NYU thread, but anecdotally there are still some traditionally solid candidates that haven't heard back from NYU yet. I'm a 175/4.0/public service record with no word. My cycle has been strange too, but NYU must be doing something other than looking at the numbers.
Though, do you happen to have a minor C&F violation? I've got a random traffic ticket, and from what I've seen NYU takes a long time to evaluate anyone who checks a C&F box.
My experience with NYU thus far supports this assessment.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:23 pm
by chadbrochill
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Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:35 pm
by PRgradBYU
TripTrip wrote:dscgrant wrote:I think I'm mostly surprised over NYU. I thought I had a much better chance after looking at LSN.
I know it's not really talked about much over in the NYU thread, but anecdotally there are still some traditionally solid candidates that haven't heard back from NYU yet. I'm a 175/4.0/public service record with no word. My cycle has been strange too, but NYU must be doing something other than looking at the numbers.
Though, do you happen to have a minor C&F violation? I've got a random traffic ticket, and from what I've seen NYU takes a long time to evaluate anyone who checks a C&F box.
FWIW, I had a C&F issue and heard back from NYU less than a month later.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:14 pm
by Crowing
It's a weird cycle because OP has apparently already been to April 2013 before the rest of us.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:08 pm
by Ti Malice
OP, you're almost certainly waitlisted at Michigan and UVA for yield-protection purposes; they're skeptical that you'll attend with those numbers. The same thing will probably happen with Penn. Did you write "Why X?" essays for these schools? Have you sent LOCIs? You really need to make them believe you have a strong interest in attending. You might even get significant money off the WL. You probably wouldn't get enough to give up NU, but you might get enough to do some scholarship negotiation between schools.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:14 pm
by chadbrochill
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Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:19 pm
by RodneyRuxin
Crowing wrote:It's a weird cycle because OP has apparently already been to April 2013 before the rest of us.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:25 pm
by sinfiery
RodneyRuxin wrote:Crowing wrote:It's a weird cycle because OP has apparently already been to April 2013 before the rest of us.
It has been prophesied. Good news is coming!
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:27 pm
by Tiago Splitter
chadbrochill wrote:Ti Malice wrote:OP, you're almost certainly waitlisted at Michigan and UVA for yield-protection purposes; they're skeptical that you'll attend with those numbers. The same thing will probably happen with Penn. Did you write "Why X?" essays for these schools? Have you sent LOCIs? You really need to make them believe you have a strong interest in attending. You might even get significant money off the WL. You probably wouldn't get enough to give up NU, but you might get enough to do some scholarship negotiation between schools.
Isn't yield protection usually for 75+/75+ percentile GPA/LSAT applicants? I feel like its abit faux pas to think we're getting yield protected with a ~25th percentile GPA. Although if it were true it could probably explain a lot of my cycle and I wouldn't be so worried about red flags in my app.
These schools YP splitters all the time because they don't plan to give those splitters enough money to convince them to attend over higher ranked schools.
Re: What's going on here?
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:03 pm
by TripTrip
Tiago Splitter wrote:These schools YP splitters all the time because they don't plan to give those splitters enough money to convince them to attend over higher ranked schools.
Are there some LSN examples that show splitters being YP'd and getting into better schools? I'm legitimately curious.