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Simple post here. My LSAD GPA's 3.92 and I'm shooting for the mid-170s on the LSAT in June, so I guess I know the score that I need to feel comfortable applying to HYS with. But I wonder what the threshold is for avoiding a retake. Anything under 173? Under 170? Perhaps I should retake any score under 175 to play it safe?

170: Should get you everywhere almost guaranteed but HYS (but still competitive chance at HYS).

173: Enjoy a Butler (maybe a Hamilton?), and 1 of HYS

175: Enjoy a Hamilton and 2 of HYS (depending on softs; otherwise 1 of HYS)

179: Retake, ED to UVA

Source: Misinformation

boblawlob wrote:170: Should get you everywhere almost guaranteed but HYS (but still competitive chance at HYS).

173: Enjoy a Butler (maybe a Hamilton?), and 1 of HYS

175: Enjoy a Hamilton and 2 of HYS (depending on softs; otherwise 1 of HYS)

179: Retake, ED to UVA

Source: Misinformation

Butlers and Hamiltons are not nearly that predictable or assured on the basis of LSAT/GPA. Many people with very high numbers are offered neither, and a fair number of Butler offerees have higher numbers than Hamilton offerees.

Otunga wrote:Simple post here. My LSAD GPA's 3.92 and I'm shooting for the mid-170s on the LSAT in June, so I guess I know the score that I need to feel comfortable applying to HYS with. But I wonder what the threshold is for avoiding a retake. Anything under 173? Under 170? Perhaps I should retake any score under 175 to play it safe?

You don't happen to be a URM, do you?

Ti Malice wrote:

boblawlob wrote:170: Should get you everywhere almost guaranteed but HYS (but still competitive chance at HYS).

173: Enjoy a Butler (maybe a Hamilton?), and 1 of HYS

175: Enjoy a Hamilton and 2 of HYS (depending on softs; otherwise 1 of HYS)

179: Retake, ED to UVA

Source: Misinformation

Butlers and Hamiltons are not nearly that predictable or assured on the basis of LSAT/GPA. Many people with very high numbers are offered neither, and a fair number of Butler offerees have higher numbers than Hamilton offerees.

Definitely. Actually, HYS acceptances and T14 schollies in general are not predictable.

My predications are just (extremely) rough estimates.

Otunga wrote:Simple post here. My LSAD GPA's 3.92 and I'm shooting for the mid-170s on the LSAT in June, so I guess I know the score that I need to feel comfortable applying to HYS with. But I wonder what the threshold is for avoiding a retake. Anything under 173? Under 170? Perhaps I should retake any score under 175 to play it safe?

You'll want to be above all LSAT medians (173 being the highest). If you don't get into Harvard with a 174, something was wrong with your app/interview.

Ti Malice wrote: Butlers and Hamiltons are not nearly that predictable or assured on the basis of LSAT/GPA. Many people with very high numbers are offered neither, and a fair number of Butler offerees have higher numbers than Hamilton offerees.

4.17/177 here and I got neither. (kanyeshrug)

When I was in your shoes, 172+ was definitely don't retake, 170/1 was a maybe, and 169- was definitely retake. Of course I landed in maybe. Don't be afraid to wait and see what happens and how you feel when you get your score.
I'd say 173 would give you a pretty reliable shot at H barring horrible PS/LORs/interviewing skills.

sabanist wrote:

Ti Malice wrote: Butlers and Hamiltons are not nearly that predictable or assured on the basis of LSAT/GPA. Many people with very high numbers are offered neither, and a fair number of Butler offerees have higher numbers than Hamilton offerees.

4.17/177 here and I got neither. (kanyeshrug)

boblawlob wrote:

sabanist wrote:

Ti Malice wrote: Butlers and Hamiltons are not nearly that predictable or assured on the basis of LSAT/GPA. Many people with very high numbers are offered neither, and a fair number of Butler offerees have higher numbers than Hamilton offerees.

4.17/177 here and I got neither. (kanyeshrug)

Word.

I think the general consensus seems to be 181 or retake

Ti Malice wrote:

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I was confused, I'll say that much. Made my decision much easier, though.