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2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest (Winners Announced)
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:34 am
by North
The USNWR Law School Rankings are absolutely useless and nobody cares about them. So lets put this year's list to better use. ITT: You predict USNWR's T25, I compile your entries, and whoever's closest when they're released wins their choice of a prize (read: stuff I find in my house). Serious business discussion about the rankings and this year's adjustment in methodology is taking place here. Per Robert Morse, entries are due before March 12th. If you don't want to play, I encourage you to troll instead (just no obvious troll entries, please) (lol, Sunny). If there's little/no interest, I'll kill it. NBD.
Note: You must have at least 100 posts to play (unless you have a tar that I like). Sorry, lurkers.
Here's how it works
- 1. Here are last year's rankings. Reference that as you order the schools in your entry.
2. Put your entry into the Submission Format (provided below).
3. Post it ITT before March 12th.
4. When the rankings are released, I'll grade everyone's submission according to The Rules for Grading (posted below).
5. I'll rank the submissions from most to least accurate.
6. The winner gets to pick one of The Prizes (posted below) and I'll mail it to him or her.
- The Submission Format
- Save me time by putting your entry into this format:
- _1. SCHOOL
_2. SCHOOL
_3. SCHOOL
_4. SCHOOL
_5. SCHOOL
_6. SCHOOL
_7. SCHOOL
_8. SCHOOL
_9. SCHOOL
10. SCHOOL
11. SCHOOL
12. SCHOOL
13. SCHOOL
14. SCHOOL
15. SCHOOL
16. SCHOOL
17. SCHOOL
18. SCHOOL
19. SCHOOL
20. SCHOOL
21. SCHOOL
22. SCHOOL
23. SCHOOL
24. SCHOOL
25. SCHOOL
- Here's the code. Copy and paste this into your submission post. Replace the stuff in all-caps with your name and predictions.
Code: Select all
[list]
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]1.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]2.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]3.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]4.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]5.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]6.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]7.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]8.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]9.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]10.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]11.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]12.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]13.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]14.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]15.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]16.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]17.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]18.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]19.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]20.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]21.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]22.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]23.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]24.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]25.[/b] SCHOOL
[/list]
- Regarding the format of ties
Note: There can't be a tie at #25 because it would mess up scoring. So, if you think there'll be a tie at #25, just pick your favorite. Props to Crowing for noticing the problem.
- There will probably be a few ties. How do you handle that when making your prediction? White out. For example, say you expect there to be a tie between Penn, UVA, and Berkeley for #7. Here's what you should do:
- Step 1:
- Starting at #7, type them in.
Tie Example wrote:_6. SCHOOL
_7. Penn
_8. UVA
_9. Berk
10. SCHOOL
11. SCHOOL
Step 2:
- White out the numbers below #7 up to the end of the tie.
Tie Example wrote:_6. SCHOOL
_7. Penn
_8. UVA
_9. Berk
10. SCHOOL
11. SCHOOL
- Here's what the code would look like:
Code: Select all
[quote="Tie Example"][b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]6.[/b] SCHOOL
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color]7.[/b] Penn
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color][color=#FFFFFF]8.[/color][/b] UVA
[b][color=#FFFFFF]_[/color][color=#FFFFFF]9.[/color][/b] Berk
[b]10.[/b] SCHOOL
[b]11.[/b] SCHOOL
[/quote][/list]
The Rules for Grading
- Everyone starts off with 100 points. A penalty equal to the difference between a school's USNWR rank and its rank in your submission will be assessed for each incorrectly placed school. If such a penalty is assessed for an incorrectly placed T14 school, it will be doubled.
The Prizes
- There are three to choose from. They all suck, but whatever. Winner gets to pick.
Prize #1: Bag of Pistachios

Prize #2: Little Scallion Plant from my Garden

(Actual picture coming when I get home (unless I keep forgetting...))
Prize #3: Pepper Sauce made from stuff I grew

Submissions will be compiled in the post below the OP, and the winner and ranking of entries will be announced in the post below that. Only funny troll entries will be included. If you have any ideas to make this better/less stupid/more fun, let me know ITT.
Re: 2014 USNWR Law School T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:35 am
by North
Re: 2014 USNWR Law School T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:35 am
by North
Poll History
Ranking your Rankings
I did some amateur (read: probably wrong and misleading) statistical analysis on the first 28 (well, 27, because Sunny's just messed things up and LRGhost didn't make it in time) submissions. If you want to play around with the numbers, here is the spreadsheet I made. You should be able to download it and put it into Excel, but I'm not totally sure how GoogleDrive is different from GoogleDocs yet. Note that the ones that go all the way to #25 get a little janky after UMinn because not everyone included every school thereafter in the T25. Anyway, here are a few:
- Ranked according to the average rank assigned by TLSers (ROUNDED)
- _1. Yale
_2. Harvard
_3. Stanford
_4. Columbia
_5. Chicago
_6. NYU
_7. Penn
_8. Berkeley
_9. Virginia
10. Michigan
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown
15. UCLA
16. Texas
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. UMinn
20. GWU
21. WUSTL
22. Notre Dame
23. Emory
24. U Washington
25. W&L
25. ASU
Ranked according to the average rank assigned by TLSers (NOT ROUNDED)
- _1. Yale
_2. Harvard
_3. Stanford
_4. Columbia
_5. Chicago
_6. NYU
_7. Penn
_8. Virginia
_9. Berkekey
10. Michigan
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown
15. UCLA
16. Texas
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. UMinn
20. GWU
21. WUSTL
22. Notre Dame
23. Emory
24. ASU
25. U Washington
And now here are some other things Excel told me. I think the standard deviation is really interesting. Y'all really aren't sure where to put UVA, are you?
- Median School Rank
- Yale: 1
Stanford: 2
Harvard: 2
Columbia: 4
Chicago: 5
NYU: 6
Penn: 7
Berkeley: 8
Virginia: 8
Michigan: 10
Duke: 11
Northwestern: 12
Cornell: 13
Georgetown: 14
UCLA: 15
Texas: 16
Vanderbilt: 17
USC: 18
UMinn: 20
Mode School Rank
- Yale: 1
Stanford: 2
Harvard: 2
Columbia: 4
Chicago: 5
NYU: 6
Penn: 7
Virginia: 8
Berkeley: 9 (change)
Michigan: 10
Duke: 11
Northwestern: 12
Cornell: 13
Georgetown: 14
UCLA: 15
Texas: 15 (change)
Vanderbilt: 17
USC: 18
UMinn: 20
Standard Deviation of School Rank
(Average = 0.785923; Above Average Uncertainty vs. Below Average Uncertainty)
Most Certain
- Yale: 0.1924
Cornell: 0.3620
NYU: 0.4369
Columbia: 0.4560
Stanford: 0.5091
Harvard: 0.5091
Georgetown: 0.6155
Penn: 0.6751
UMinn: 0.7337
Chicago: 0.8077
Northwestern: 0.8439
Vanderbilt: 0.8931
Berkeley: 0.9120
Texas: 0.9607
USC: 1.0741
Duke: 1.0794
UCLA: 1.2206
Michigan: 1.2821
Virginia: 1.3681
Least Certain
Winner & Ranking of entries (TBA)
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:01 pm
by Ruxin1
I suggest closing the laptop and maybe seeing what all is out there in the world.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:04 pm
by North
Ruxin1 wrote:I suggest closing the laptop and maybe seeing what all is out there in the world.
I'm at work bro, nothing else to do.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:05 pm
by nickb285
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Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:06 pm
by rad lulz
Oh dude I love scallions
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:08 pm
by RSterling
Go. Outside.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:10 pm
by North
rad lulz wrote:Oh dude I love scallions
Yeah the ones from the store that still have roots grow like crazy when you plant them.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:11 pm
by North
RSterling wrote:Go. Outside.
North wrote:I'm at work bro, nothing else to do.
ETA: I work for the gov't, there aren't even windows in here.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:12 pm
by rad lulz
Don't give out mix CD bro. That's some copyright infringement. U gon get banned
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:13 pm
by North
rad lulz wrote:Don't give out mix CD bro. That's some copyright infringement. U gon get banned
Good advice bro
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:19 pm
by North
nickb285 wrote:Fuck yeah pistachios.
Pistachios are the best dude. I wish they weren't so expensive or I'd get them all the time.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:21 pm
by WhatOurBodiesAreFor
_1. Yale
_2. Stanford
_3. Harvard
_4. Columbia
_5. NYU
_6. Chicago
_7. Penn
_8. UVA
_ Michigan
10. Berkeley
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. GULC
15. UCLA
16. USC
17. UT
18. Vandy
19. Minnesota
20. WUSTL
Notre Dame
Emory
23. GWU
24. U Washington
ASU
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:25 pm
by goden
_1. Yale
_2. Stanford
_3. Harvard
_4. UVA
_5. Columbia
_6. Chicago
_7. NYU
_8. Penn
_9. Berkeley
10. Michigan
11. NU
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. ASU
15. GULC
16. USC
17. Vandy
18. UT
19. UCLA
20. Minnesota
21. WUSTL
22. BC
23. BYU
24. Fordham
25. BU
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:29 pm
by TripTrip
TripTrip's Entry wrote:
- _1. Yale
_2. Stanford
_3. Harvard
_4. Columbia
_5. Chicago
_6. NYU
_7. Penn
_8. Mich
_9. Boalt
_9. UVA
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown
15. Texas
16. Vanderbilt
17. UCLA
18. USC
19. Minnesota
20. GW
21. UND
22. Emory
23. W&L
24. Boston
25. IUB
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Rankings Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:29 pm
by TripTrip
goden wrote:
14. ASU
15. GULC
lol.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:16 pm
by Crowing
North wrote:
Note: You must have at least 100 posts to play. Sorry, lurkers.
North creating shitty megaposters, take two.
Whatever those pistachios are as good as mine.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:19 pm
by North
Crowing wrote:North wrote:
Note: You must have at least 100 posts to play. Sorry, lurkers.
North creating shitty megaposters, take two.
Whatever those pistachios are as good as mine.
I don't want to mail my pistachios to some rando no-tar. Lets see what you got bro. Need some participation before the hate gets to me and I take it out back.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:33 pm
by Nova
- _1. Yale
_2. Harvard
_3. Stanford
_4. Columbia
_5. Chicago
_6. NYU
_7. Penn
_8. Virgina
_9. Boalt
10. Michigan
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Georgetown
14. Cornell
15. Texas
16. Vandy
17. UCLA
18. USC
19. UMN
20. GW
21. ND
22. WUSTL
23. UW
24. BU
25. Emory
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:38 pm
by North
Good to see you around Nova. How are things?
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:45 pm
by andy261
andy261's Entry wrote:
- _1. Yale
_2. Stanford
_3. Harvard
_4. Columbia
_5. Chicago
_6. NYU
_7. Berkeley
_8. Penn
_9. Michigan
10. UVA
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown
15. UCLA
16. UT Austin
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. Minnesota
20. GW
21. WUSTL
22. Notre Dame
23. UW
24. BU
25. Emory
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:47 pm
by Nova
North wrote:Good to see you around Nova. How are things?
All is well. Really busy with school.
*In class now*
Nice work with the OP. I want that plant.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:49 pm
by Crowing
Are we gonna be allowed to edit our submissions prior to the deadline? I feel like this is necessary because more info might come out between now and then that changes predictions.
I'm not trying hard I swear.
Re: 2014 USNWR T25 Prediction Contest
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:50 pm
by Bulls1990
A scallion plant, that's beautiful. I wish I knew enough about the methodology to throw my hat in the ring for that golden calf of botany.