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is it worth doing? what is the benefit of it? would it help in admissions even in the slightest?

itachiuchiha wrote:is it worth doing? what is the benefit of it? would it help in admissions even in the slightest?

Just do it.

ph14 wrote:

itachiuchiha wrote:is it worth doing? what is the benefit of it? would it help in admissions even in the slightest?

Just do it.

you sound like a nike commercial... any reason why I should?

Yes you waive it. The benefit is that professors will be more candid/honest if the applicant can't see what they wrote, and therefore admissions committee members put more weight on letters with the waiver.

Dany wrote:Yes you waive it. The benefit is that professors will be more candid/honest if the applicant can't see what they wrote, and therefore admissions committee members put more weight on letters with the waiver.

Yep.

itachiuchiha wrote:

ph14 wrote:

itachiuchiha wrote:is it worth doing? what is the benefit of it? would it help in admissions even in the slightest?

Just do it.

you sound like a nike commercial... any reason why I should?

I assumed the reasons are obvious and you were just reluctant to cede the control.

ph14 wrote:

itachiuchiha wrote:

ph14 wrote:

itachiuchiha wrote:is it worth doing? what is the benefit of it? would it help in admissions even in the slightest?

Just do it.

you sound like a nike commercial... any reason why I should?

I assumed the reasons are obvious and you were just reluctant to cede the control.

actually, last time i had a letter written it sucked http://postimage.org/image/4ahker1cb/
so I am hesitant to waive my rights

itachiuchiha wrote:

ph14 wrote:

itachiuchiha wrote: you sound like a nike commercial... any reason why I should?

I assumed the reasons are obvious and you were just reluctant to cede the control.

actually, last time i had a letter written it sucked http://postimage.org/image/4ahker1cb/
so I am hesitant to waive my rights

I mean, that's what I imagine an average LOR looks like.

itachiuchiha wrote:
actually, last time i had a letter written it sucked http://postimage.org/image/4ahker1cb/
so I am hesitant to waive my rights

can't say i blame you lolol

That letter is not that awful. I've read way worse.

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IMO, you shouldn't ask someone for an LOR if you aren't comfortable w/ waiving your right to see it.

dr123 wrote:IMO, you shouldn't ask someone for an LOR if you aren't comfortable w/ waiving your right to see it.

+1... Pick someone whom you know will right a good letter... aka, someone who likes you and who knows you. If you do not have said people, postpone applying to law school and get buddy-buddy with some profs this semester

itachiuchiha wrote:actually, last time i had a letter written it sucked http://postimage.org/image/4ahker1cb/
so I am hesitant to waive my rights

The reaction you got in that thread was just stupid. Those posters seem to have no idea what the common "bad" LOR looks like. By no means is that a great letter, but it's only a bad letter for four or five schools at most. It won't hurt you anywhere else.

Ti Malice wrote:

itachiuchiha wrote:actually, last time i had a letter written it sucked http://postimage.org/image/4ahker1cb/
so I am hesitant to waive my rights

The reaction you got in that thread was just stupid. Those posters seem to have no idea what the common "bad" LOR looks like. By no means is that a great letter, but it's only a bad letter for four or five schools at most. It won't hurt you anywhere else.

Maybe that letter cuts it at the shiTTTy school that some call Yale, but out here in the real world, not so much.

ManOfTheMinute wrote:

Ti Malice wrote:

itachiuchiha wrote:actually, last time i had a letter written it sucked http://postimage.org/image/4ahker1cb/
so I am hesitant to waive my rights

The reaction you got in that thread was just stupid. Those posters seem to have no idea what the common "bad" LOR looks like. By no means is that a great letter, but it's only a bad letter for four or five schools at most. It won't hurt you anywhere else.

Maybe that letter cuts it at the shiTTTy school that some call Yale, but out here in the real world, not so much.

Harhar.

That letter would be just fine at any school not named Yale, Stanford, Harvard, Chicago, or Berkeley. No other school cares about LORs unless they raise red flags. Your average letter contains no comparative element. The fact that prof says (twice) that OP was the best student in the class immediately elevates this above the majority of LORs. The comment that OP "excelled" in his analytical written work counts for something as well. The letter is absolutely serviceable for all law schools but the ones named above.

I honestly don't even think it's a dealbreaker for Chicago. That letter is mediocre but not necessarily damaging. You guys underestimate how truly awful some letters can be.

Dany wrote:I honestly don't even think it's a dealbreaker for Chicago. That letter is mediocre but not necessarily damaging. You guys underestimate how truly awful some letters can be.

I think you're probably right on the first point. I just included Chicago because the class size is small enough for them to be able to be a little pickier. Regardless, you're absolutely correct on the rest.

That other thread was kind of funny. A few people say the LoR is mediocre, try to find another, etc. and slowly the hivemind evolves the thread into "this is the worst LoR ever and will get you rejected from law school."

Now the OP seems shellshocked. I can understand the neuroticism; I waived my rights but 3/4 professors showed me their LoRs anyway by their own initiatives. To this day I wonder in the back of my head if that 4th one had some sinister thing to say

dr123 wrote:IMO, you shouldn't ask someone for an LOR if you aren't comfortable w/ waiving your right to see it.

+1

Dany wrote:I honestly don't even think it's a dealbreaker for Chicago. That letter is mediocre but not necessarily damaging. You guys underestimate how truly awful some letters can be.

Exactly. This was just fine. I knew a girl once (back in high school) whose recommender wrote that she although she did well in her high school English class, she wasn't emotionally mature enough to handle college. So, you're just fine.

ManOfTheMinute wrote:

dr123 wrote:IMO, you shouldn't ask someone for an LOR if you aren't comfortable w/ waiving your right to see it.

+1... Pick someone whom you know will right a good letter... aka, someone who likes you and who knows you. If you do not have said people, postpone applying to law school and get buddy-buddy with some profs this semester

Do you really think that law school is worth putting off if one cant get a measly letter?

itachiuchiha wrote:

ManOfTheMinute wrote:

dr123 wrote:IMO, you shouldn't ask someone for an LOR if you aren't comfortable w/ waiving your right to see it.

+1... Pick someone whom you know will right a good letter... aka, someone who likes you and who knows you. If you do not have said people, postpone applying to law school and get buddy-buddy with some profs this semester

Do you really think that law school is worth putting off if one cant get a measly letter?

Depends where you want to go... consensus seems to be so long as its nto HYS, Chicago, or Berkeley, its fine. I see the merits of that POV

Crowing wrote:That other thread was kind of funny. A few people say the LoR is mediocre, try to find another, etc. and slowly the hivemind evolves the thread into "this is the worst LoR ever and will get you rejected from law school."

That LOR, while not sterling, is not bad OP. I read a LOR where the professor explicitly stated that he doubted the applicant could handle the rigors of law school and was a poor student in his class. That is one *bad* LOR. Probably the worst I read/heard about. Felt bad for the applicant since the professor should have just declined to write on the student's behalf.