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Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:09 pm
by naillsat
The number of LSAT takers has been declining for a second year, but I found most top law schools received more applications for the 2011-2012 cycle. Does this mean it's getting harder to get into top law schools while lower tier schools are easier to get in? If this trend is to continue for five years or a decade, will the bottom law schools be forced to close? what's the impact of the declined LSAT takers on the application/admissions and the legal job market five years from now?

Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:06 pm
by TripTrip
naillsat wrote:If this trend is to continue for five years or a decade, will the bottom law schools be forced to close?
As long as there's shitlaw, there will be shit law schools.

Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:19 pm
by balzie94
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Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:37 pm
by justonemoregame
No one knows what's up 5 years down the road, but for this cycle - admission to the T-14 should about the same or perhaps a little easier. Significantly fewer LSAT takers means there will be fewer high-scoring applicants, and we've seen a few medians drop within the T-14 already.

Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:07 pm
by Br3v
justonemoregame wrote:No one knows what's up 5 years down the road, but for this cycle - admission to the T-14 should about the same or perhaps a little easier. Significantly fewer LSAT takers means there will be fewer high-scoring applicants, and we've seen a few medians drop within the T-14 already.
yep

Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:54 am
by megagnarley
justonemoregame wrote:No one knows what's up 5 years down the road, but for this cycle - admission to the T-14 should about the same or perhaps a little easier. Significantly fewer LSAT takers means there will be fewer high-scoring applicants, and we've seen a few medians drop within the T-14 already.
Any noteworthy in particular?

Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:35 am
by NoodleyOne
megagnarley wrote:
justonemoregame wrote:No one knows what's up 5 years down the road, but for this cycle - admission to the T-14 should about the same or perhaps a little easier. Significantly fewer LSAT takers means there will be fewer high-scoring applicants, and we've seen a few medians drop within the T-14 already.
Any noteworthy in particular?
Off the top of my head I think Michigan and rumor is NYU dropped a point. I think some 25/75s changed as well. There's a thread about it in FAQ or Choose a Law School.

Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:52 am
by BigZuck
NoodleyOne wrote:
megagnarley wrote:
justonemoregame wrote:No one knows what's up 5 years down the road, but for this cycle - admission to the T-14 should about the same or perhaps a little easier. Significantly fewer LSAT takers means there will be fewer high-scoring applicants, and we've seen a few medians drop within the T-14 already.
Any noteworthy in particular?
Off the top of my head I think Michigan and rumor is NYU dropped a point. I think some 25/75s changed as well. There's a thread about it in FAQ or Choose a Law School.
Also Cornell, Georgetown, and Duke.

I'm expecting CCN, VP, and Vandy and UCLA to all drop their medians this year, maybe even HYS. I know TLS and LSN is not fully representative, sample size, etc. but these sites are not nearly as active as they were even one year ago. Schools are going to have to relax their standards or risk contracting their class sizes even more.

Re: Declined number of LSAT takers, more apply to top schools?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:10 am
by hume85
BigZuck wrote:
NoodleyOne wrote:
megagnarley wrote:
justonemoregame wrote:No one knows what's up 5 years down the road, but for this cycle - admission to the T-14 should about the same or perhaps a little easier. Significantly fewer LSAT takers means there will be fewer high-scoring applicants, and we've seen a few medians drop within the T-14 already.
Any noteworthy in particular?
Off the top of my head I think Michigan and rumor is NYU dropped a point. I think some 25/75s changed as well. There's a thread about it in FAQ or Choose a Law School.
Also Cornell, Georgetown, and Duke.

I'm expecting CCN, VP, and Vandy and UCLA to all drop their medians this year, maybe even HYS. I know TLS and LSN is not fully representative, sample size, etc. but these sites are not nearly as active as they were even one year ago. Schools are going to have to relax their standards or risk contracting their class sizes even more.
Harvard and Columbia had a drop in their 75th percentile of 1 point. Harvard went from 176 to 175 and Columbia went from 175 to 174