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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:44 am
by be(au)ar
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Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:44 am
by ctmx
it promotes diversity

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:45 am
by danitt
IBTL.

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:47 am
by Cade McNown

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:49 am
by be(au)ar
I don't think 'It promotes diversity' gets to the heart of what I'm asking but I'll take it

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:49 am
by kcam1991
Ibtl

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:50 am
by be(au)ar
I find it ironic that in a forum full of future lawyers, rational debate is pretty hard to come by

Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:51 am
by slawww
Well, you clearly are ignorant. Hmmm, only a few decades ago African Americans couldn't even use the same water fountains as whites. In the education race whites have a huge head start. It's pretty common sense, bud.

Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:59 am
by be(au)ar
slawww wrote:Well, you clearly are ignorant. Hmmm, only a few decades ago African Americans couldn't even use the same water fountains as whites. In the education race whites have a huge head start. It's pretty common sense, bud.

Right, and putting under-achieving URM's in a class full of Harvard or Yale law students is surely doing the system justice. I agree URM's need to be well represented in law school, but I don't think they should be given such a significant boost when it comes to the top law schools. And with your personal jab, I ask you to resort to my earlier comment, bud.

Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:01 pm
by 20130312
Should have QFP'd.

Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:02 pm
by Swimp
The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.

Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:05 pm
by kcam1991
Swimp wrote:The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.
+1

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:07 pm
by JCFindley
kcam1991 wrote:
Swimp wrote:The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.
+1
+2 and IBTL

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:07 pm
by be(au)ar
kcam1991 wrote:
Swimp wrote:The way our society is structured makes it difficult for members of some communities (including those in the "URM" category) to get into positions of power. We, as a society, have decided that this is not optimal, and giving priority to URM law school applicants is one way we try to change that dynamic. While you may feel that this solution disadvantages you unfairly, it is meant to combat a whole host of unfair (and much more insidious) disadvantages faced by minority communities in this country. I don't think anyone would say it's a perfect solution, but a perfect solution probably doesn't exist.
+1

I agree

Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:08 pm
by Eberry
danitt wrote:IBTL.

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:11 pm
by be(au)ar
kind of ridiculous how race/ethnicity is the third-rail of TLS forums

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:14 pm
by Swimp
be(au)ar wrote:kind of ridiculous how race/ethnicity is the third-rail of TLS forums
This is not unique to TLS. It's a touchy subject for pretty obvious reasons.

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:27 pm
by JCFindley
Let me rephrase this.

In Before The "."

Re: URM's....I'm a little jealous.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:30 pm
by slawww
be(au)ar wrote:
slawww wrote:Well, you clearly are ignorant. Hmmm, only a few decades ago African Americans couldn't even use the same water fountains as whites. In the education race whites have a huge head start. It's pretty common sense, bud.

Right, and putting under-achieving URM's in a class full of Harvard or Yale law students is surely doing the system justice. I agree URM's need to be well represented in law school, but I don't think they should be given such a significant boost when it comes to the top law schools. And with your personal jab, I ask you to resort to my earlier comment, bud.
This argument is flawed because it assumes that URMs not allotted the same resources as the traditionally more priviledged white students do not have the same scores because they are underachievers, rather than because of a lack of resources and opportunities.

You're reasoning leads me to believe you would not get into a top school regardless of URM status.

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:35 pm
by Eberry
Now we'll never know if he's changed his views or simply pussed out.

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:53 pm
by nygrrrl
Yes. I think we're finished, here.
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