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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:12 am
by Mr. Frodo
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Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:16 am
by TTH
If this person has been in a position to evaluate your work, then it will be a good LOR. If it's someone with whom your dad plays golf, then no. A good LOR grounded in actual experience from an adjunct professor at a TTT state school will be better than a generic LOR written as a favor from a high magistrate and nobleman every time.

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:27 am
by Yukos
Depends. If it's from Cheney, probably not, but Al Gore is definitely a boost.

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:30 am
by Mr. Frodo
TTH wrote:If this person has been in a position to evaluate your work, then it will be a good LOR. If it's someone with whom your dad plays golf, then no. A good LOR grounded in actual experience from an adjunct professor at a TTT state school will be better than a generic LOR written as a favor from a high magistrate and nobleman every time.
The dude is the president if my school now, and as the top student in my class I think whatever words he could offer on my behalf would be really helpful. I already have 3 LORs from professors that know me very well and one LOR from my boss who loved my work product. But I would obviously not use one of them if I pursue this new LOR.

Edit. Lol @ yukos

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:25 pm
by TTH
Mr. Frodo wrote:
TTH wrote:If this person has been in a position to evaluate your work, then it will be a good LOR. If it's someone with whom your dad plays golf, then no. A good LOR grounded in actual experience from an adjunct professor at a TTT state school will be better than a generic LOR written as a favor from a high magistrate and nobleman every time.
The dude is the president if my school now, and as the top student in my class I think whatever words he could offer on my behalf would be really helpful.
If that's all he can say, then it's not that helpful in terms of your lost opportunity cost. Your transcript will say you were the top student in your class. You want your LORs to communicate something that's not on your application elsewhere. So, if you worked with this guy, and he can talk about how great of a worker you are or how good your work product was on issue X, then that's cool. If all he can say is, "I have reviewed his student records and can attest that Mr. Frodo is an excellent student," then that's far less impressive.

AdComms routinely receive LORs from Federal Judges, state and federal elected officials, prominent religious leaders, etc. You can ask any AdComm at any school, and they will tell you that 99.9% of the time, a recommender's pedigree does not matter. And that .01 percent would be a recommendation from POTUS, an SC Justice, a major donor to the law school, or someone the Dean of Admissions personally knows and respects.

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:22 pm
by SaintsTheMetal
TTH wrote:or someone the Dean of Admissions personally knows and respects.
in this case that may be true... the Dean of Admissions and Vice President of the same university are probably acquainted

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:51 pm
by Mr. Frodo
SaintsTheMetal wrote:
TTH wrote:or someone the Dean of Admissions personally knows and respects.
in this case that may be true... the Dean of Admissions and Vice President of the same university are probably acquainted
My thoughts exactly.

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:29 am
by TTH
Mr. Frodo wrote:
SaintsTheMetal wrote:
TTH wrote:or someone the Dean of Admissions personally knows and respects.
in this case that may be true... the Dean of Admissions and Vice President of the same university are probably acquainted
My thoughts exactly.
No, sure, provided he or she can write a good letter on your behalf.

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:37 pm
by Mr. Frodo
TTH wrote:
Mr. Frodo wrote:
SaintsTheMetal wrote:
TTH wrote:or someone the Dean of Admissions personally knows and respects.
in this case that may be true... the Dean of Admissions and Vice President of the same university are probably acquainted
My thoughts exactly.
No, sure, provided he or she can write a good letter on your behalf.

The president of the university schedule a 45 minute meeting with me in 2 weeks. That is a substantial chunk of time for someone so important. Should I take this as a good sign that he's gonna give it his best shot to help me all he can?

Seems he wants to write a good letter... :D

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:40 pm
by indo
Yukos wrote:Depends. If it's from Cheney, probably not, but Al Gore is definitely a boost.
lame lol

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:51 pm
by NoodleyOne
Mr. Frodo wrote:
TTH wrote:If this person has been in a position to evaluate your work, then it will be a good LOR. If it's someone with whom your dad plays golf, then no. A good LOR grounded in actual experience from an adjunct professor at a TTT state school will be better than a generic LOR written as a favor from a high magistrate and nobleman every time.
The dude is the president if my school now, and as the top student in my class I think whatever words he could offer on my behalf would be really helpful. I already have 3 LORs from professors that know me very well and one LOR from my boss who loved my work product. But I would obviously not use one of them if I pursue this new LOR.

Edit. Lol @ yukos

Gunner. Most (if not all) law school apps limit the number of LORs to 4.

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:18 pm
by Mr. Frodo
NoodleyOne wrote:
Mr. Frodo wrote:
TTH wrote:If this person has been in a position to evaluate your work, then it will be a good LOR. If it's someone with whom your dad plays golf, then no. A good LOR grounded in actual experience from an adjunct professor at a TTT state school will be better than a generic LOR written as a favor from a high magistrate and nobleman every time.
The dude is the president if my school now, and as the top student in my class I think whatever words he could offer on my behalf would be really helpful. I already have 3 LORs from professors that know me very well and one LOR from my boss who loved my work product. But I would obviously not use one of them if I pursue this new LOR.

Edit. Lol @ yukos

Gunner. Most (if not all) law school apps limit the number of LORs to 4.

I know this, but I have various professors to use for various roles... for schools I'm applying to dual degree (JD/MS Mech. Eng.) I have 2 LORs that are (I'm told) about my technical proficiency from some of the more renowned faculty in my department. I will only be submitting 3 or less for each school, saving room for 1 for LOCI if need be. My schools president will obviously be one I send to Penn and no where else. I'm ok with being an application gunner, lol. :P

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:00 am
by Anonymous4444
just score two points higher on your lsat and stop worrying about this stuff

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:02 am
by Bildungsroman
Make sure it's not someone connected to the Sandusky scandal.

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:11 am
by Davidbentley
Bildungsroman wrote:Make sure it's not someone connected to the Sandusky scandal.
178.30-60

Re: LOR from former VP at Penn

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:16 am
by rad lulz
Bildungsroman wrote:Make sure it's not someone connected to the Sandusky scandal.
Came ITT to poast this.