Yeah, it can work. It can also backfire all to hell. Ask my friend from the midatlantic who went to UMN, got great grades, law review, a local SO, then got shut out locally and got regional biglaw on the east coast.YankeesFan wrote:I always hear this about regional schools, but I think if you go to a regional school and want to stay, then where you came from can be overcome with minimal work. For ex., I left NY/DC for Wake and wanted to stay in NC. During my first year interviews I was always asked why NC? However, after spliting my summer in NC I have not had another interviewer question whether or not I want to stay in NC. In my opinion, the key is to work in the school's region during your first summer. This should demonstrate your commitment to staying there.andythefir wrote:With the crucial caveat that the person in question is from Alabama and wants to stay. Where a lot of people get into a lot of trouble is trying to go from Arizona>Alabama law>try to get a job in Arizona or from Minnesota>Bama law>try to get a job in Florida
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YankeesFan wrote:I always hear this about regional schools, but I think if you go to a regional school and want to stay, then where you came from can be overcome with minimal work. For ex., I left NY/DC for Wake and wanted to stay in NC. During my first year interviews I was always asked why NC? However, after spliting my summer in NC I have not had another interviewer question whether or not I want to stay in NC. In my opinion, the key is to work in the school's region during your first summer. This should demonstrate your commitment to staying there.andythefir wrote:With the crucial caveat that the person in question is from Alabama and wants to stay. Where a lot of people get into a lot of trouble is trying to go from Arizona>Alabama law>try to get a job in Arizona or from Minnesota>Bama law>try to get a job in Florida
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Chu bumpin son?nmop_apisdn wrote:Tag and bump.
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Can anyone answer my previous question about being Korean American if I went to U of Alabama? I'm wondering (even though I went to middle school - undergrad) if it would hurt of help any of my chances.
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As terrible of a place as Alabama may be, it's not that terrible. The only way it will actually have a detriment to you is if you hold dual citizenship and apply for a Top Secret security clearance, but that's really not going to be a problem for you regardless.togepi wrote:Can anyone answer my previous question about being Korean American if I went to U of Alabama? I'm wondering (even though I went to middle school - undergrad) if it would hurt of help any of my chances.
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I don't mind it at all, I was just curious as to if many firms there try to keep their office white and tidytwentypercentmore wrote:As terrible of a place as Alabama may be, it's not that terrible. The only way it will actually have a detriment to you is if you hold dual citizenship and apply for a Top Secret security clearance, but that's really not going to be a problem for you regardless.togepi wrote:Can anyone answer my previous question about being Korean American if I went to U of Alabama? I'm wondering (even though I went to middle school - undergrad) if it would hurt of help any of my chances.
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Your Asian, bro. The South has never discriminated against Asians. Nor has any other part of this country. Take a lap.togepi wrote:I don't mind it at all, I was just curious as to if many firms there try to keep their office white and tidytwentypercentmore wrote:As terrible of a place as Alabama may be, it's not that terrible. The only way it will actually have a detriment to you is if you hold dual citizenship and apply for a Top Secret security clearance, but that's really not going to be a problem for you regardless.togepi wrote:Can anyone answer my previous question about being Korean American if I went to U of Alabama? I'm wondering (even though I went to middle school - undergrad) if it would hurt of help any of my chances.
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Are you trolling? See: Chinese Exclusion Act.Chickensoup wrote:Your Asian, bro. The South has never discriminated against Asians. Nor has any other part of this country. Take a lap.togepi wrote:I don't mind it at all, I was just curious as to if many firms there try to keep their office white and tidytwentypercentmore wrote:As terrible of a place as Alabama may be, it's not that terrible. The only way it will actually have a detriment to you is if you hold dual citizenship and apply for a Top Secret security clearance, but that's really not going to be a problem for you regardless.togepi wrote:Can anyone answer my previous question about being Korean American if I went to U of Alabama? I'm wondering (even though I went to middle school - undergrad) if it would hurt of help any of my chances.
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watChickensoup wrote:Your Asian, bro. The South has never discriminated against Asians. Nor has any other part of this country. Take a lap.togepi wrote:I don't mind it at all, I was just curious as to if many firms there try to keep their office white and tidytwentypercentmore wrote:As terrible of a place as Alabama may be, it's not that terrible. The only way it will actually have a detriment to you is if you hold dual citizenship and apply for a Top Secret security clearance, but that's really not going to be a problem for you regardless.togepi wrote:Can anyone answer my previous question about being Korean American if I went to U of Alabama? I'm wondering (even though I went to middle school - undergrad) if it would hurt of help any of my chances.
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TCR. Probably the best school outside of the T-14 as far as cost to job prospects ratio.BYU seems to do well
ASU and U of A also do pretty well since they have something of a monopoly on 2 decently sized legal markets.
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only if you get the discounted rate at BYUVeyron wrote:TCR. Probably the best school outside of the T-14 as far as cost to job prospects ratio.BYU seems to do well
ASU and U of A also do pretty well since they have something of a monopoly on 2 decently sized legal markets.
Also, what 2 decently sized legal markets in AZ?
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Phoenix metro. Tucson metro. Natch.dingbat wrote:only if you get the discounted rate at BYUVeyron wrote:TCR. Probably the best school outside of the T-14 as far as cost to job prospects ratio.BYU seems to do well
ASU and U of A also do pretty well since they have something of a monopoly on 2 decently sized legal markets.
Also, what 2 decently sized legal markets in AZ?
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I disagree and think Rutgers Newark is a decent regional within the state.dingbat wrote:Columbia and NYU are solid regional schools.
Any law school in NJ is not
To the OP, There are a LOT more than a handful of schools outside the T-14 that would be outstanding choices with $$$ IF you wanted to work in the regions they feed.
In the Southeast, and I will keep them mostly public. UNC, USC, UGA > GSU but both not bad in some circumstances, Bama, Ole Miss, UF/FSU. LSU, Arkansas, Vandy>UT, TX>SMU=Houston,
There are just a few in the SE and not all are in the top 100. It all depends on where you really want to work AND have ties.
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As long as biglaw/preftigiouf PI/preftigiouf government aren't your primary goals.JCFindley wrote:I disagree and think Rutgers Newark is a decent regional within the state.dingbat wrote:Columbia and NYU are solid regional schools.
Any law school in NJ is not
To the OP, There are a LOT more than a handful of schools outside the T-14 that would be outstanding choices with $$$ IF you wanted to work in the regions they feed.
In the Southeast, and I will keep them mostly public. UNC, USC, UGA > GSU but both not bad in some circumstances, Bama, Ole Miss, UF/FSU. LSU, Arkansas, Vandy>UT, TX>SMU=Houston,
There are just a few in the SE and not all are in the top 100. It all depends on where you really want to work AND have ties.
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Yupp, LOTS of caveats to that, but depends on what you define as prestige. IF say, you were from Philadelphia MS, Yes there is such a place, and your end game goal was to hang your own shingle or work as a DA or PD there, then Ole Miss with $$$ might well be an outstanding choice though I would still try and do Bama for the same goal. If you just LOVE Macon GA, and there are people that do, UGA is in fact a good school and would be a good choice... Nebraska or Iowa are not bad choices if you want to live in Omaha.HeavenWood wrote:As long as biglaw/preftigiouf PI/preftigiouf government aren't your primary goals.JCFindley wrote:I disagree and think Rutgers Newark is a decent regional within the state.dingbat wrote:Columbia and NYU are solid regional schools.
Any law school in NJ is not
To the OP, There are a LOT more than a handful of schools outside the T-14 that would be outstanding choices with $$$ IF you wanted to work in the regions they feed.
In the Southeast, and I will keep them mostly public. UNC, USC, UGA > GSU but both not bad in some circumstances, Bama, Ole Miss, UF/FSU. LSU, Arkansas, Vandy>UT, TX>SMU=Houston,
There are just a few in the SE and not all are in the top 100. It all depends on where you really want to work AND have ties.
There are plenty of good TT and even some TTT schools out there IF you have specific goals, you have ties, you can do them for very little or better yet, NO debt and the market you are trying to enter at least has the jobs you want.
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The UW-Seattle, U-Houston, SMU, UMiami, U-Florida, FSU, UTexas, Arizona, UCLA, USC, UC-Hastings, U-San Diego, UIUC, GWU, Temple, BU, BC, Suffolk, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Emory, and Ohio State are probably the best non-T14's at dominating their own markets - all of which are major markets.
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PDaddy wrote:The UW-Seattle, U-Houston, SMU, UMiami, U-Florida, FSU, UTexas, Arizona, UCLA, USC,UC-Hastings, U-San Diego, UIUC, GWU, Vanderbilt, Georgia, and Emory are probably the best non-T14'sat dominatingdoing well in their own markets -allsome of which are major markets.
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Some of these schools would require a LOT more money to be viable in direct relation to the other school feeding the area on your list.PDaddy wrote:The UW-Seattle, U-Houston, SMU, UMiami, U-Florida, FSU, UTexas, Arizona, UCLA, USC, UC-Hastings, U-San Diego, UIUC, GWU, Temple, BU, BC, Suffolk, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Emory, and Ohio State are probably the best non-T14's at dominating their own markets - all of which are major markets.
For instance, Miami v. UF. Though with the difference in admission standards it might be possible that they would be the same cost for an individual. Now, Emory v. UGA would be a tougher call. Emory has a slight edge in jobs but is a LOT more costly to attend. While Rutgers and SH both feed NJ fairly well, one is ridiculously expensive and the other pretty reasonable especially with a little $$ thrown at the student.
Attending a strong regional can make a lot of sense but attending an expensive private regional should only be considered with a LOT of $$$ or rich parents. (Oh, and no stips on that $$$)
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How about USC vs. UCLA for an out of state student. I know UCLA is ranked higher, but there may be unknown factors to me that contribute to job placement. According to law school transparency, USC has the better numbers.
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Realistically, UCLA and USC are more or less even. Go to whichever is cheapermsquaredb wrote:How about USC vs. UCLA for an out of state student. I know UCLA is ranked higher, but there may be unknown factors to me that contribute to job placement. According to law school transparency, USC has the better numbers.
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Neither without a large scholarship.msquaredb wrote:How about USC vs. UCLA for an out of state student. I know UCLA is ranked higher, but there may be unknown factors to me that contribute to job placement. According to law school transparency, USC has the better numbers.
Hastings, San Diego, and with it Davis and Irvine are not smart schools to go to. The UC schools do not offer large enough scholarships to make their worse than most TTTT employment statistics worth it. Hastings does not dominate SF -- Berkeley does, and to a lesser extent Stanford.PDaddy wrote:The UW-Seattle, U-Houston, SMU, UMiami, U-Florida, FSU, UTexas, Arizona, UCLA, USC, UC-Hastings, U-San Diego, UIUC, GWU, Temple, BU, BC, Suffolk, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Emory, and Ohio State are probably the best non-T14's at dominating their own markets - all of which are major markets.
Similar things can be said for expensive schools like GWU, Emory, Miami, UW, where you better be getting a LOT of $$$$$ to make the employment prospects worth it.
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depends a bit I think on how many schools are in the state in relation to how many big cities there are and how big they are. for instance, Indiana probably only needs two law schools but they have I think five of em.
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Seattle doesn't have enough jobs to make UW-Seattle a good choice. Even if they got every single NALP job in Seattle for their grads (and honestly, I think they come close to pulling that off) almost everyone would still be without one.PDaddy wrote:The UW-Seattle, U-Houston, SMU, UMiami, U-Florida, FSU, UTexas, Arizona, UCLA, USC, UC-Hastings, U-San Diego, UIUC, GWU, Temple, BU, BC, Suffolk, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Emory, and Ohio State are probably the best non-T14's at dominating their own markets - all of which are major markets.
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