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Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:34 am
by WannabeeLawyer
http://lawschooldeathwatch.blogspot.com

What are the chances these schools will be closing? I would like to be a lawyer, but this is a little scary.

Any advice for me?

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:37 am
by drmguy
WannabeeLawyer wrote:http://lawschooldeathwatch.blogspot.com

What are the chances these schools will be closing? I would like to be a lawyer, but this is a little scary.

Any advice for me?
If you want to be a lawyer, then you should not be going to any of these schools.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:44 am
by JCFindley
drmguy wrote:
WannabeeLawyer wrote:http://lawschooldeathwatch.blogspot.com

What are the chances these schools will be closing? I would like to be a lawyer, but this is a little scary.

Any advice for me?
If you want to be a lawyer, then you should not be going to any of these schools.
This!

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:52 am
by CanadianWolf
It's interesting to peruse the faculty bios at these & other Tier Four law schools. Some faculty have amazing backgrounds while others are products of the Tier Four itself.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:57 am
by lnoy
WannabeeLawyer wrote:http://lawschooldeathwatch.blogspot.com

What are the chances these schools will be closing? I would like to be a lawyer, but this is a little scary.

Any advice for me?

Just don't go to any of these schools. But also lets not forget that this is just a blog.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:31 am
by 2014
The author's evidence is nothing more than a link to LST.

His point that low enrollment might lead to some schools closing is fair but it remains to be seen and he clearly has no inside knowledge.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:43 am
by jurisx
They won't close (most anyways) they will just raise tuition prices on those who have no other option but attend. The majority of people who would attend a 4th Tier law or CBE type law school would also do so at twice the average tuition rate. Desperation plus Hubris is an evil cocktail for those who consume it. Capitalism at it's prime example.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:49 am
by jurisx
I love how Cooley didn't even make the list

With a 5 campuses in two states (and plans to expand even more) that beast will never die.

I expect a campus in half of the states by the end of the decade. If anyone can get the ABA to get law school allowed online, expect it to be Cooley, the UOP of law schools by 2025 I bet.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:50 am
by northwood
jurisx wrote:I love how Cooley didn't even make the list
Maybe cuz it has their own ranking. Or because of its multiple locations and library

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:51 am
by jurisx
northwood wrote:
jurisx wrote:I love how Cooley didn't even make the list
Maybe cuz it has their own ranking. Or because of its multiple locations and library
which has zero to do with the private list in question huh?

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:54 am
by IAFG
jurisx wrote:They won't close (most anyways) they will just raise tuition prices on those who have no other option but attend.
Everyone has an option not to attend. That's what brought these schools to lowered enrollment in the first place. Raising costs are already reducing demands on this bad investment.
The majority of people who would attend a 4th Tier law or CBE type law school would also do so at twice the average tuition rate.
The fact that enrollment and applications are down seems to contradict this.
Desperation plus Hubris is an evil cocktail for those who consume it. Capitalism at it's prime example.
That just doesn't even make sense. Capitalism will lead to reduced demand of useless goods and services.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:01 pm
by Bildungsroman
jurisx wrote:
northwood wrote:
jurisx wrote:I love how Cooley didn't even make the list
Maybe cuz it has their own ranking. Or because of its multiple locations and library
which has zero to do with the private list in question huh?
I'm pretty sure it was a joke, hoss.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:02 pm
by jurisx
People still buy overpriced crack. People still get online PhD's and MBA's (wow, I know, but they do it)
Talk to a 4th Tier law student some time, they will tell you how they are a diamond in the rough and no one gets it yet (etc,etc) The schools (minus cooley) may shrink a bit, but most will stay around. Some (like cooley) will even grow.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:06 pm
by jurisx
Bildungsroman wrote:
jurisx wrote:
northwood wrote:
jurisx wrote:I love how Cooley didn't even make the list
Maybe cuz it has their own ranking. Or because of its multiple locations and library
which has zero to do with the private list in question huh?
I'm pretty sure it was a joke, hoss.
weak jokes come from weak minds

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:07 pm
by jurisx
WannabeeLawyer wrote:http://lawschooldeathwatch.blogspot.com

What are the chances these schools will be closing? I would like to be a lawyer, but this is a little scary.

Any advice for me?
Yes, here it is: Don't trust random bloggers to know jack.

There, hope it helped.

PS
If you do trust it, then go to Cooley or Taft. I didn't see either of them listed on it.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:08 pm
by IAFG
jurisx wrote:People still buy overpriced crack. People still get online PhD's and MBA's (wow, I know, but they do it)
Talk to a 4th Tier law student some time, they will tell you how they are a diamond in the rough and no one gets it yet (etc,etc) The schools (minus cooley) may shrink a bit, but most will stay around. Some (like cooley) will even grow.
Housing prices will only ever go up.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:09 pm
by Bildungsroman
jurisx wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote: I'm pretty sure it was a joke, hoss.
weak jokes come from weak minds
You seem like a real peach. Maybe you're just mad you were too dumb to notice a Cooley joke.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:09 pm
by chippa
IAFG wrote:
jurisx wrote:They won't close (most anyways) they will just raise tuition prices on those who have no other option but attend.
Everyone has an option not to attend. That's what brought these schools to lowered enrollment in the first place. Raising costs are already reducing demands on this bad investment.
The majority of people who would attend a 4th Tier law or CBE type law school would also do so at twice the average tuition rate.
The fact that enrollment and applications are down seems to contradict this.
Desperation plus Hubris is an evil cocktail for those who consume it. Capitalism at it's prime example.
That just doesn't even make sense. Capitalism will lead to reduced demand of useless goods and services.
Agree with IAFG.
Right before the housing bubble popped people would pay ridiculous amounts for homes. Then once the bubble popped, well you know what happened. Anyways "bubbles" don't pop automatically. They take a while. And the legal education/law student loan bubble is going to pop (and so are many law schools). It is just going to take a while because there are so many special snowflakes. Capitalism will actually fix the problem, but it is not going to be pretty (we are already starting to see that).

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:18 pm
by jurisx
IAFG wrote:
jurisx wrote:People still buy overpriced crack. People still get online PhD's and MBA's (wow, I know, but they do it)
Talk to a 4th Tier law student some time, they will tell you how they are a diamond in the rough and no one gets it yet (etc,etc) The schools (minus cooley) may shrink a bit, but most will stay around. Some (like cooley) will even grow.
Housing prices will only ever go up.
but houses did not go away did they? Did some move into campers in their parents back yard? Sure. But new ones being built even to this day.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:18 pm
by jurisx
Bildungsroman wrote:
jurisx wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote: I'm pretty sure it was a joke, hoss.
weak jokes come from weak minds
You seem like a real peach. Maybe you're just mad you were too dumb to notice a Cooley joke.
saw words on a screen, didn't see any joke.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:20 pm
by jurisx
chippa wrote:
IAFG wrote:
jurisx wrote:They won't close (most anyways) they will just raise tuition prices on those who have no other option but attend.
Everyone has an option not to attend. That's what brought these schools to lowered enrollment in the first place. Raising costs are already reducing demands on this bad investment.
The majority of people who would attend a 4th Tier law or CBE type law school would also do so at twice the average tuition rate.
The fact that enrollment and applications are down seems to contradict this.
Desperation plus Hubris is an evil cocktail for those who consume it. Capitalism at it's prime example.
That just doesn't even make sense. Capitalism will lead to reduced demand of useless goods and services.
Agree with IAFG.
Right before the housing bubble popped people would pay ridiculous amounts for homes. Then once the bubble popped, well you know what happened. Anyways "bubbles" don't pop automatically. They take a while. And the legal education/law student loan bubble is going to pop (and so are many law schools). It is just going to take a while because there are so many special snowflakes. Capitalism will actually fix the problem, but it is not going to be pretty (we are already starting to see that).
And yet you can live anywhere. You need a degree to practice. The only way the tuition bubble will pop is if people offer a cheaper alternative. If that is the pop, then the cheaper alternative will of course be the lower tier law schools that offer free rides at a 150 lsat.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:21 pm
by AC Vegas
What are the odds this thread wasn't created by the guy who made that site looking to get traffic to his stupid redundant no-news blog?

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:23 pm
by jurisx
AC Vegas wrote:What are the odds this thread wasn't created by the guy who made that site looking to get traffic to his stupid redundant no-news blog?
with one post to his name-yes. 100%

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:26 pm
by WannabeeLawyer
jurisx wrote:
AC Vegas wrote:What are the odds this thread wasn't created by the guy who made that site looking to get traffic to his stupid redundant no-news blog?
with one post to his name-yes. 100%
hey, sorry, but I am just trying to figure out what to do with my life. I cannot get any kind of work except retail. I need something here. Help me out, man.

Re: Law School Death Watch site--is this for real??

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:31 pm
by top30man
This blog is awful. It just reports lst data and calls it news.