Do they really average? Forum

[zidane13]

I'm sitting on a 3.82 and a 170 with laser beam focus on getting into NYU. I know NYU says they average LSATs, but I've heard and read people say that that's not actually the case. I figure I just need a 171, and I'd give myself a 50/50 chance at getting it, so I'd love to have another chance at getting it, especially if the averaging business is just lip service.

Anybody have a clear read on this? Thanks, y'all.

PS I read a lot but don't ever post here but this forum is really cool. It's one of the best examples I can think of of the Internet actually living up to its potential. So thanks to everybody who contributes.

[aekea]

I'm sitting on a 3.82 and a 170 with laser beam focus on getting into NYU. I know NYU says they average LSATs, but I've heard and read people say that that's not actually the case. I figure I just need a 171, and I'd give myself a 50/50 chance at getting it, so I'd love to have another chance at getting it, especially if the averaging business is just lip service.

Anybody have a clear read on this? Thanks, y'all.

PS I read a lot but don't ever post here but this forum is really cool. It's one of the best examples I can think of of the Internet actually living up to its potential. So thanks to everybody who contributes.

Why do you think you'd have a 50/50 chance with a 171 and a 3.82?

[zidane13]

Sorry, I was unclear. I'd say I have a 50/50 chance of getting a 171 on a retake. From what LawSchoolNumbers says, it seems like I'd be good to go at NYU with a 171. With a 170, though, right on the edge of the cliff. Is averaging for real though?

[Excellent117]

You have as good of a chance at dropping to a 169 from a 170 as you do at going up to a 171.

[Tiago Splitter]

You have as good of a chance at dropping to a 169 from a 170 as you do at going up to a 171.

Which is why the OP said he has a 50/50 chance of improving to 171. Of course, depending on the amount of prep the OP did the odds of improvement could be much more or less likely than even.

If NYU averaged I'm almost certain I would not have gotten in.

[kwais]

I'm skeptical of averaging, given my own experience (an admittedly small sample)

[ahnhub]

Yeah, you really are smack on the border of admit/WL. Honestly if you applied early this cycle I think you woulda gotten in. If you apply ED I give you good odds as well.

But if NYU's what you really want and you think you have a 50/50 shot at improving, go ahead and retake. 1 point will probably get you in for sure, and 2-3 points might get you $$. I can't imagine a lower score the 2nd time will hurt you, unless it's significantly lower (I'm assuming from your post you think you did just about your PT score or slightly under-performed it).

If you do any better, they will look at your highest score, period.

If you don't retake, I'd ED. If you do and get a 171+, I think you're good to go RD.

[zidane13]

Thanks for the help, gang. I was averaging about 172 on PTs, but you hear a lot about people dropping off a few points on the real deal. I'm gonna give it another shot. Go big or go home, right?

[Mal Reynolds]

Same LSAT and slightly higher GPA than you and Im NYU/scholly secure. But I would suggest retaking to get some more money at CCN anyway. Good luck.

[AmoryB]

I had 3 LSAT scores, 171 and two mid-upper 160's, and I was able to sweep CCN. So, I highly doubt they averaged based on my experience.

[rayiner]

Averaging is a myth. Retake, get a 173 and go to Harvard.

[zidane13]

Averaging is a myth. Retake, get a 173 and go to Harvard.

Can't believe I didn't think of this sooner.

1. Realize going to Harvard is awesome
2. ????
3. PROFIT

[rayiner]

Averaging is a myth. Retake, get a 173 and go to Harvard.

Can't believe I didn't think of this sooner.

1. Realize going to Harvard is awesome
2. ????
3. PROFIT

If you can get a 170 you can get a 173.

[roaringeagle]

Why NYU? I have a close friend who went to NYU, took huge amounts of debt and was very bitter that their OCI people treated him like shit. BTW he has a job with a top firm nevertheless, but he hates on his school.

[zidane13]

Why NYU? I have a close friend who went to NYU, took huge amounts of debt and was very bitter that their OCI people treated him like shit. BTW he has a job with a top firm nevertheless, but he hates on his school.

I'd like to do PI and NYU's LRAP is better than MVP.

Rayiner: just messing with you, appreciate the vote of confidence.

[zidane13]

Wanted to thank the posters who set me straight about retaking - I retook in June and jumped to a 174, with which I will skate into NYU, hopefully with a bit of cash trailing in my wake. After being pretty jumpy on my first LSAT, I felt a lot better knowing how everything goes going into my second one and it felt much smoother and easier (with the exception of the goddamn -10 curve) and obviously went much better.

FWIW, I didn't study all that much for my retake, only retook a few PTs. I was just in a much steadier place mentally having jumped through all the hoops already and knowing that I was capable of getting a better score. Throwing this out there in case it's useful to anybody.

[jessemllr]

Thanks. You just gave me the encouregment I need to retake my 167 to try N hit 170. I hope that the nerves settle the second time around