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lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:58 am
by BlueJeanBaby
Which of these is more accurate? Law school predictor puts me at "deny" for a LOT of schools, while law school numbers shows a sea of green dots surrounding my numbers. Which is better to follow when creating a list of places to apply?
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:05 pm
by Br3v
BlueJeanBaby wrote:Which of these is more accurate? Law school predictor puts me at "deny" for a LOT of schools, while law school numbers shows a sea of green dots surrounding my numbers. Which is better to follow when creating a list of places to apply?
Both strength and weak in areas. I'm more familiar with LSN and think it makes more sense to see how you compare with past accepted/waitlisted/denied applicants than flat out predicting yours
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:50 pm
by 2014
Lawschoolpredictor is based off of data from lawschoolnumbers however it uses last years data and this year for whatever school you are looking at might be different.
LSN is better with splitters though because averaging a bunch of outliers can produce less representative results.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:01 pm
by BlueJeanBaby
Thank you. I guess I am somewhat of a splitter. LSN makes my prospects look much more optimistic.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:19 pm
by MellowMantis
I'd rely on LSN more, I had schools that predictor said I'd be denied from that I was accepted to and schools it sa were admit and denied from, there is no sure fire way to predict where you'll be admitted, use it as a rough barometer nd apply to a lot of schools or all schools your interested in
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:43 pm
by Gail
I have no clue. Both were deceptive for me.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:11 pm
by Samara
BlueJeanBaby wrote:Thank you. I guess I am somewhat of a splitter. LSN makes my prospects look much more optimistic.
Well, there's your problem. The bigger a splitter you are, the less accurate LSP is. What are your numbers and what schools are you targeting?
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:07 pm
by BlueJeanBaby
Samara wrote:BlueJeanBaby wrote:Thank you. I guess I am somewhat of a splitter. LSN makes my prospects look much more optimistic.
Well, there's your problem. The bigger a splitter you are, the less accurate LSP is. What are your numbers and what schools are you targeting?
Anywhere in North Carolina. I'll PM you my numbers.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:19 pm
by Rock1245
Gail wrote:I have no clue. Both were deceptive for me.
What do you mean by deceptive? Were they both overly optimistic for you?
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:27 pm
by Gail
Rock1245 wrote:Gail wrote:I have no clue. Both were deceptive for me.
What do you mean by deceptive? Were they both overly optimistic for you?
Overly optimistic. Waitlist armageddon. That said, I also got a few very nice offers that I'm happy with, so your mileage may vary.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:31 pm
by Crowing
My understanding is that LSP doesn't take into account cutoffs as well as it should. For example having a 180 LSAT vs. a 172 LSAT will give you much better chances at Michigan according to LSP but because Michigan's 75th is 171 the true benefit is going to be much smaller.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:57 am
by john_smith291988
Br3v wrote:BlueJeanBaby wrote:Which of these is more accurate? Law school predictor puts me at "deny" for a LOT of schools, while law school numbers shows a sea of green dots surrounding my numbers. Which is better to follow when creating a list of places to apply?
Both strength and weak in areas. I'm more familiar with LSN and think it makes more sense to see how you compare with past accepted/waitlisted/denied applicants than flat out predicting yours
Why use a Law school Predictor? Isn't it much better if you will just go for the school you choose and apply?
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:50 am
by NomNom
john_smith291988 wrote:Br3v wrote:BlueJeanBaby wrote:Which of these is more accurate? Law school predictor puts me at "deny" for a LOT of schools, while law school numbers shows a sea of green dots surrounding my numbers. Which is better to follow when creating a list of places to apply?
Both strength and weak in areas. I'm more familiar with LSN and think it makes more sense to see how you compare with past accepted/waitlisted/denied applicants than flat out predicting yours
Why use a Law school Predictor? Isn't it much better if you will just go for the school you choose and apply?
Wat
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:11 am
by Br3v
NomNom wrote:john_smith291988 wrote:Br3v wrote:BlueJeanBaby wrote:Which of these is more accurate? Law school predictor puts me at "deny" for a LOT of schools, while law school numbers shows a sea of green dots surrounding my numbers. Which is better to follow when creating a list of places to apply?
Both strength and weak in areas. I'm more familiar with LSN and think it makes more sense to see how you compare with past accepted/waitlisted/denied applicants than flat out predicting yours
Why use a Law school Predictor? Isn't it much better if you will just go for the school you choose and apply?
Wat
Correct me if wrong, but I believe john_smith thinks law school predictor is one of those sites where you enter your goals/interests/LSAT/gpa and it tells you what school would be a good fit.
John, this is not the case. The site gives you a rough gauge where you would be accepted based in gpa and lsat
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:23 pm
by john_smith291988
Yes that was what I am thinking, thank you for your explanation but I want to know how accurate the Law predictor is?

Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:20 am
by Br3v
john_smith291988 wrote:Yes that was what I am thinking, thank you for your explanation but I want to know how accurate the Law predictor is?

Its fairly accurate in the sense that it includes a large amount of numbers and averages it out. Your case will more than likely be different than the exact average case. Like the census says each family has like 2.3 kids (made up) but no one has 2.3 kids. Get it?
That was a horrible analogy
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:30 am
by rad lulz
john_smith291988 wrote:Yes that was what I am thinking, thank you for your explanation but I want to know how accurate the Law predictor is?

This question gets asked all the time. It's on the freakin website.
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=173
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:41 am
by Br3v
rad lulz wrote:john_smith291988 wrote:Yes that was what I am thinking, thank you for your explanation but I want to know how accurate the Law predictor is?

This question gets asked all the time. It's on the freakin website.
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=173
Ive noticed the site loves TLS as well.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:39 am
by NomNom
Look at people's comments on their LSN profiles - a lot of people will post what LSP "predicted". Reality tends to be a little less harsh for some cases.
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:40 pm
by rad lulz
Br3v wrote:rad lulz wrote:john_smith291988 wrote:Yes that was what I am thinking, thank you for your explanation but I want to know how accurate the Law predictor is?

This question gets asked all the time. It's on the freakin website.
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=173
Ive noticed the site loves TLS as well.
Ycrevoltion created LSP dude
Re: lawschoolpredictor vs. lawschoolnumbers
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:52 pm
by Gail
LSP is accurate in some ways and inaccurate in others. It will give you a guide of what tier you can feel comfortable with.
It isn't bullet proof though and don't think that you're immune to WL and rejections. You just don't know what admissions thinks and how your application comes off to them. Is law school largely numbers based? Yes. But strike out in that last 5% of softs and it gets less predictable.
By the way, don't apply anywhere that you don't have ties to unless T-14.