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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:14 pm
by SYoshi11
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:15 pm
by 071816
now you may have to settle for harvard :(

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:16 pm
by tennisking88
SYoshi11 wrote:Here is the story:

I signed up for a class in the beginning of the semester and a week later went to my course enroll to drop it. Then, after the drop deadline, I find out it has not been dropped. I've never attended the class, never bought a book, and don't even know what the Professor looks like...because I thought the class had been dropped. My school is making me take a withdrawl, and it will show credit attempted on my transcript, meaning LSAC will count it as an F. This drops my GPA from a 3.91, to a 3.69.

My lsat is 179.

What just happened to my life?
Nothing. Just write an addendum.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:23 pm
by SYoshi11
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:24 pm
by rad lulz
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:28 pm
by SYoshi11
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:30 pm
by jkpolk
Why don't you just take the class?

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:30 pm
by Mr. Pancakes
SYoshi11 wrote:Here is the story:
will count it as an F. This drops my GPA from a 3.91, to a 3.69.

My lsat is 179.

What just happened to my life?
Don't be a law student. Those grades won't get you accepted to anywhere worth going.
Starbucks is always hiring, and I think they give you reasonable chances to be shift supervisor after your first year or two.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:31 pm
by madvillain
I think I may be one of the only people on TLS who understands how you feel. I also had a 179, and in my first year I neglected to drop a class properly leading to a withdraw-fail on my transcript, lowering my GPA by a near identical margin. The difference is my undergrad gives out A+'s so I still ended up with a 3.85 by the time I applied. Mediocre to bad softs, international, K-JD. I wrote an addendum explaining the situation to all the schools I applied to.

So here's how my cycle went so far: Rejected at Yale, held at H, no reply from Stanford yet (assumed rejection), held at Columbia, WL at Chicago, $$ at NYU, held by Michigan, WL'd by Penn, rejected by Berkeley, $$$ at UVA.

So as you can see I underperformed my numbers, the NYU offer notwithstanding, and I feel like the withdraw-fail was one of the factors involved in that. It's a bummer but we all make dumb mistakes and I guess we just have to live with them. My only recommendation is that you kill every grade from here on out. I had to get straight A's for the last two years just to get my GPA up to a T6 median, and even then only NYU has bitten so far. Here's to hoping you have better luck.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:31 pm
by tennisking88
SYoshi11 wrote:will an addendum even really help? my gpa is now below the median of i think every single law school in the top 10.

i'm not intending to come off as a dick. this just really hurts and im looking for some help
Unless you can somehow get around this (challenge the school's decision/appeal to LSAC), there's no going back. We all make dumb mistakes. All you can do is own up to it and hope that ppl in admissions sympathize. HYS will still see that your transcript is almost perfect except for a W, and if you explain this really technicality of why your LSAC gpa is .2 lower, I think you can get some sympathy from admissions.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:32 pm
by rad lulz
lawschoolnumbers.com

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:32 pm
by SYoshi11
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:35 pm
by tennisking88
SYoshi11 wrote:polkij333 -- I guess that's a possibility. Though, I'd probably fail anyway since I haven't taken the first exam (which, I think, is 30-ish% of your grade). And, if I do take the class, it'll count against my college gpa as well (the withdraw doesn't hurt my college gpa, only my lsac one).

Does anyone know how they'll view an addendum? I'm clearly an idiot for not checking something like this out, but it was also an honest, innocent mistake.
No one knows how they will view an addendum. Some may be sympathetic. Some may not. The point is you should write one regardless, to explain yourself.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:35 pm
by Mr. Pancakes
tfleming09 wrote:
SYoshi11 wrote:^ so i'm in splitter-ville? will they even care about the addendum?
Yeah you're pretty much fucked. I'd retake the LSAT.
this is the credited response.
Don't sell yourself short.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:36 pm
by SYoshi11
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:40 pm
by SYoshi11
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:43 pm
by Gail
SYoshi11 wrote:madvillian: "So here's how my cycle went so far: Rejected at Yale, held at H, no reply from Stanford yet (assumed rejection), held at Columbia, WL at Chicago, $$ at NYU, held by Michigan, WL'd by Penn, rejected by Berkeley, $$$ at UVA. "

I'm sorry. That really sucks, wow. I can't believe I just threw away my chances at going to a t-6 school because of one mistake.
Bad to mediocre softs + K-JD probably hurt him there.

YSH are not hurting for superb LSATs. One more 179 isn't gonna do much for those schools.


Then again. You got $$$ to UVA, so shut up.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:44 pm
by vpintz
tfleming09 wrote:
SYoshi11 wrote:For those of you saying "ED UVA" or "Retake LSAT" what do you actually think I should do? I'm sorry of I came off like a dick, I did not mean that at all. But can you all imagine if your gpa dropped by .2 because of a silly mistake?
Yup. Also keep in mind I would kick a baby into a woodchipper for your stats.
+1

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:45 pm
by SYoshi11
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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:45 pm
by nametaken
SYoshi11 wrote:For those of you saying "ED UVA" or "Retake LSAT" what do you actually think I should do? I'm sorry of I came off like a dick, I did not mean that at all. But can you all imagine if your gpa dropped by .2 because of a silly mistake?
I think all you can do has been said by the few serious posters here. Kill the rest of your grades, try to appeal the W if at all possible, and if not, write an addendum. You can't change what happened, the most you can do is try to figure out how to make the best of your situation now. Hopefully you will have an amazing personal statement and admissions will look past your mistake.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:47 pm
by splitbrain
nametaken wrote:I think all you can do has been said by the few serious posters here. Kill the rest of your grades, try to appeal the W if at all possible, and if not, write an addendum. You can't change what happened, the most you can do is try to figure out how to make the best of your situation now. Hopefully you will have an amazing personal statement and admissions will look past your mistake.

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:47 pm
by SYoshi11
To Gail:

So what do you think I should expect? What would your advice to me be?

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:49 pm
by Blumpbeef
vpintz wrote:
tfleming09 wrote:
SYoshi11 wrote:For those of you saying "ED UVA" or "Retake LSAT" what do you actually think I should do? I'm sorry of I came off like a dick, I did not mean that at all. But can you all imagine if your gpa dropped by .2 because of a silly mistake?
Yup. Also keep in mind I would kick a baby into a woodchipper for your stats.
+1

Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:53 pm
by CorkBoard
I dont exactly know what to say to help, so I drew you a picture instead.

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Re: Withdraw is going to kill me

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:54 pm
by vpintz
CorkBoard wrote:I dont exactly what to say to help, so I drew you a picture instead.

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Cork, you are my favorite ever. <3