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To take the W, or not to take the W...

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:57 pm
by findmethepage
I'm currently a first-year undergrad at a T5 university trying to decide whether or not to take a W right now. I'm currently looking to get a C- in Calculus right now, and am seriously considering taking a withdrawal on this. We're on the quarter system here, so my grades last quarter looked like: B+, B+, and C (that was in calc again). I realize how much getting a C- on my second quarter would hurt my GPA (though it would be my final quarter of math), and considering I want to go to a T14, one of equitable reputation to my current Uni, that worries me.This quarter my grades will probably look like B+, B+, A-, and C- if I don't take the W. I'm looking to be a polysci major, so maybe the admissions staff would sympathize with my math grade if I didn't take the W?

So what would look worse, the W (which might make them think I was failing the course, or a second C in Calculus (even though I'm going to be in a major devoid of math)?

    Re: To take the W, or not to take the W...

    Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:00 pm
    by 20121109
    findmethepage wrote:I'm currently a first-year undergrad at a T5 university trying to decide whether or not to take a W right now. 'm currently looking to get a C- in Calculus right now, and am seriously considering taking a withdrawal on this. We're on the quarter system here, so my grades last quarter looked like: B+, B+, and C (that was in calc again). I realize how much getting a C- on my second quarter would hurt my GPA (though it would be my final quarter of math), and considering I want to go to a T14, one of equitable reputation to my current Uni, that worries me.This quarter my grades will probably look like B+, B+, A-, and C- if I don't take the W. I'm looking to be a polysci major, so maybe the admissions staff would sympathize with my math grade if I didn't take the W?

    So what would look worse, the W (which might make them think I was failing the course, or a second C in Calculus (even though I'm going to be in a major devoid of math)?
      As long as the W is non-puntive, it will not be factored in your LSAC GPA, whereas a C- will be factored in your LSAC GPA.

      In other words, find out if the W is considered punitive in your school. If it's not, DEFINITELY take the W.

      Re: To take the W, or not to take the W...

      Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:01 pm
      by findmethepage
      Yeah, the W would be completely non-punitive on my GPA here, I have confirmed that. I was just wondering if it would be punitive on my admission chances really. Also if it helps to know my current undergrad is at UChicago.

      Re: To take the W, or not to take the W...

      Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:03 pm
      by 20121109
      LSAC doesn't care about non-punitive Ws, and neither do adcomms.

      Take the W.

      Re: To take the W, or not to take the W...

      Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:05 pm
      by howlery
      It seems like plenty of people get in where their numbers allow with several Ws. If you have a ton it could be a red flag, but since law schools don't have to report that data to anyone they can and do look past it.

      Re: To take the W, or not to take the W...

      Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:16 pm
      by findmethepage
      GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote: Take the W.
      I think I'll be doing this - thanks. I only thought that this C- would mean less since I got a C last quarter and am not in a major that involves math.

      Re: To take the W, or not to take the W...

      Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:17 pm
      by JasonR
      findmethepage wrote:
      GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote: Take the W.
      I think I'll be doing this - thanks. I only thought that this C- would mean less since I got a C last quarter and am not in a major that involves math.
      Not how it works. The only thing that matters is the cumulative uGPA.

      Re: To take the W, or not to take the W...

      Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:20 pm
      by reformed calvinist
      howlery wrote:It seems like plenty of people get in where their numbers allow with several Ws. If you have a ton it could be a red flag, but since law schools don't have to report that data to anyone they can and do look past it.
      Shit even if you have several it beats the GPA hit.