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ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:08 am
by curiousgeorge1
I've received a higher score on my December exam that would qualify me for better schools/scholly money than the school I bound myself to ED a few months ago. My question: can I sit out this cycle from the school I am now bound to and reapply next cycle to any schools I choose, free from the original ED contract? I have heard the answer is yes, but on the ED contract I signed, no particular time limit (e.g. 1 year) is specified. Can someone explain (outside of a hunch) how this is possible, if at all? Yes, it may seem I was foolish to ED in the first place, but with the limited information I had it was truly the best decision at the time. TIA.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:14 am
by kalvano
ED only applies to one admissions cycle. You're good if you sit out the year.

Which you absolutely should do, and re-apply to get money next cycle.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:19 am
by curiousgeorge1
kalvano wrote:ED only applies to one admissions cycle. You're good if you sit out the year.

Which you absolutely should do, and re-apply to get money next cycle.
I have heard this from a generous amount of people but no one has been able to explain where the explanation comes from. I don't want to email the adcomms, saying "well ED only applies for a cycle" and have them and their peer schools blackball me. Could you point me somewhere substantive so I won't be jumping off a cliff? Thanks!! I really want to be able to do this right. 'Preeesh the help

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:24 am
by kalvano
Call and ask the registrar. That's what I did. I was told its a one-cycle only thing.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:26 am
by Dany
Curious - what are your numbers?

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:38 am
by curiousgeorge1
Dany wrote:Curious - what are your numbers?
Pre-December <168, post-December >168. Always >3.8x. PM for specifics. Please no quoting. Thanks again!

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:45 am
by Dany
ABSOLUTELY reapply. Depending on how far above, you could be looking at half- to full- rides at some T14s. Congrats on the new score!

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:52 am
by curiousgeorge1
Dany wrote:ABSOLUTELY reapply. Depending on how far above, you could be looking at half- to full- rides at some T14s. Congrats on the new score!
Thanks Dany!

I suppose the burning question here is the particular strategy (if one is needed at all?) that should be used in communicating to the adcomms that I will be sitting out the cycle.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:04 am
by kalvano
Send in all your acceptance letters for other schools, and make them form a collage that spells out the message.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:12 pm
by curiousgeorge1
bump - thanks

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:15 pm
by FloridaCoastalorbust
Sit out the cycle if you can, but determine if that is actually possible at your school and/or won't be frowned upon

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:16 pm
by sunynp
Dude- they aren't as worried about this as you are. If you have to just tell them that your circumstances have changed and you are sitting out this year. They aren't going to prevent you from going to another school and they wouldn't want to.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:27 pm
by Dany
The only thing to make sure you let them know is that you're withdrawing totally and not trying to defer your ED acceptance until next year.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:32 pm
by Opie
One thing to point out is that I've read that some schools don't like it if you turn down their ED and then reapply, so you should know that you may be kissing this school goodbye. Not that it probably matters if you have outperformed your previous numbers. Sounds like you're looking at at least the lower T14, maybe better.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:49 am
by cooley4lyfe
While the ED contract might only apply for one cycle, I don't see how you're going to just notify the adcomms that you're just walking out. GL.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:50 am
by Dany
cooley4lyfe wrote:While the ED contract might only apply for one cycle, I don't see how you're going to just notify the adcomms that you're just walking out. GL.
You just withdraw. It's not that hard.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:55 am
by cooley4lyfe
Dany wrote:
cooley4lyfe wrote:While the ED contract might only apply for one cycle, I don't see how you're going to just notify the adcomms that you're just walking out. GL.
You just withdraw. It's not that hard.
"Dear xxx, I'm no longer interested in attending your school because I can now get into a better school. Thanks"

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:59 am
by emkay625
This happens quite often. just send an email explaining that you would like to withdraw because you need to sit out law school a year and will not be attending this cycle. Make it very clear that you want to withdraw, not defer. Case closed.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:04 am
by Errzii
If you haven't been accepted to the school you EDed to, wouldn't withdrawing before a decision is made null the ED contract? Wouldn't that allow you to attend whatever schools still accept you on the basis of your new score for the remainder of the current cycle? Unless you've already been accepted, in which case +1 to what everyone else already said, i.e., sit out and wait till next cycle.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:06 am
by Dany
cooley4lyfe wrote:
Dany wrote:
cooley4lyfe wrote:While the ED contract might only apply for one cycle, I don't see how you're going to just notify the adcomms that you're just walking out. GL.
You just withdraw. It's not that hard.
"Dear xxx, I'm no longer interested in attending your school because I can now get into a better school. Thanks"
You wouldn't phrase it like that, you moron.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:20 am
by kalvano
Law schools are not emotional teenagers that are going to cry at the first sign they aren't the popular kid. They're a business. If you write them and say you cannot attend and will be withdrawing your application and sitting out this cycle, they will process the request and forget about in approximately 46 seconds.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:22 am
by curiousgeorge1
sunynp wrote:Dude- they aren't as worried about this as you are. If you have to just tell them that your circumstances have changed and you are sitting out this year. They aren't going to prevent you from going to another school and they wouldn't want to.
I just think they will see this as disingenuous and share that with peer schools. Am I looking way too into this? The old adage that one in the hand is better than two in the bush seems to keep me worried. I don't know how to convey that "things have changed" without banging a hornets nest. But nevertheless, I don't want to throw away $$ or better employment.
emkay625 wrote:This happens quite often. just send an email explaining that you would like to withdraw because you need to sit out law school a year and will not be attending this cycle. Make it very clear that you want to withdraw, not defer. Case closed.
Have you heard of this happening? I feel like it's talked about on the boards but I can't seem to actually pinpoint it.
kalvano wrote:Law schools are not emotional teenagers that are going to cry at the first sign they aren't the popular kid. They're a business. If you write them and say you cannot attend and will be withdrawing your application and sitting out this cycle, they will process the request and forget about in approximately 46 seconds.
So you don't think they see this as a contractual violation whatsoever and will let it slide? I too share the same sentiment at times but don't know if sentiment makes the risk worth it

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:25 am
by Dany
It's not disingenuous. You agreed that if accepted THIS YEAR, you would go that school in the Class of 2015. If you try to weasel out and go to another school this year, you'll have problems. Choosing not to attend at all this year isn't going to be an issue.

Re: ED Stips - AM I S.O.L.???????

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:26 am
by kalvano
An ED contract says you agree to go to that school if accepted, and it only applies for that admissions cycle.

You're not breaking any contract by sitting out the cycle. That's a perfectly acceptable alternative. The choice under the ED contract is go to that school or no school.

Stop worrying so much about this. Send the email and go outside and play. No one at the school will care.