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Seems the lawsuits earlier this year were just the beginning.

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Do you really purposely seek out articles about law school every day? If there were a profession I had gone to school for but then flunked out of I wouldn't waste all my time reading about it.

Thanks for posting this. The easy answer is to return to the pre-2005 bankruptcy laws which made student loan debt dischargeable. This would cause lenders to stop lending ridiculous amounts of money to fund & fuel inflated tuition charges.

Ludovico Technique wrote:Do you really purposely seek out articles about law school every day? If there were a profession I had gone to school for but then flunked out of I wouldn't waste all my time reading about it.

I agree that Mtal trolls alot but this article is legit and I think this is something that we are going to see more of.

CanadianWolf wrote:Thanks for posting this. The easy answer is to return to the pre-2005 bankruptcy laws which made student loan debt dischargeable. This would cause lenders to stop lending ridiculous amounts of money to fund & fuel inflated tuition charges.

I support ending all government support for student loans. Let private lenders decide whether to lend 100k to a cooley student.

shoeshine wrote:

Ludovico Technique wrote:Do you really purposely seek out articles about law school every day? If there were a profession I had gone to school for but then flunked out of I wouldn't waste all my time reading about it.

I agree that Mtal trolls alot but this article is legit and I think this is something that we are going to see more of.

If it was from anyone else it would be ok (although I don't think there's really anything particularly newsworthy about it) but from MTal its just more "see look I told you so! Don't go to law school!" Its really annoying at this point.

While some may not like the message, it's certainly worth reading, in my opinion.

MTal wrote:

CanadianWolf wrote:Thanks for posting this. The easy answer is to return to the pre-2005 bankruptcy laws which made student loan debt dischargeable. This would cause lenders to stop lending ridiculous amounts of money to fund & fuel inflated tuition charges.

I support ending all government support for student loans. Let private lenders decide whether to lend 100k to a cooley student.

STOP MAKING ME AGREE WITH YOU

FeelTheHeat wrote:

MTal wrote:

CanadianWolf wrote:Thanks for posting this. The easy answer is to return to the pre-2005 bankruptcy laws which made student loan debt dischargeable. This would cause lenders to stop lending ridiculous amounts of money to fund & fuel inflated tuition charges.

I support ending all government support for student loans. Let private lenders decide whether to lend 100k to a cooley student.

STOP MAKING ME AGREE WITH YOU

+1. government is illegit.

Ludovico Technique wrote: If it was from anyone else it would be ok (although I don't think there's really anything particularly newsworthy about it)

Nothing newsworth? The very institutions which this site promotes as being worthwhile are being sued for fraud.

In class action suits filed earlier this year, seven former students from New York Law School and Thomas M. Cooley School of Law

....I stopped reading after that.

MTal wrote:

Ludovico Technique wrote: If it was from anyone else it would be ok (although I don't think there's really anything particularly newsworthy about it)

Nothing newsworth? The very institutions which this site promotes as being worthwhile are being sued for fraud.

When a T1 law school actually gets sued for fraud let me know. Nobody on this site ever said it was worthwhile to go to Cooley or Thomas Jefferson.

Ludovico Technique wrote:

MTal wrote:

Ludovico Technique wrote: If it was from anyone else it would be ok (although I don't think there's really anything particularly newsworthy about it)

Nothing newsworth? The very institutions which this site promotes as being worthwhile are being sued for fraud.

When a T1 law school actually gets sued for fraud let me know. Nobody on this site ever said it was worthwhile to go to Cooley or Thomas Jefferson.

Will do. I don't think we'll have long to wait.

Hey have you guys heard about Thomas Jefferson School of Law and Cooley?

They're both worth going to...

So... if a lawsuit devastates a school and it has to shut down, are the loans of current students forgiven?

shoeshine wrote:

Ludovico Technique wrote:Do you really purposely seek out articles about law school every day? If there were a profession I had gone to school for but then flunked out of I wouldn't waste all my time reading about it.

I agree that Mtal trolls alot but this article is legit and I think this is something that we are going to see more of.

A few things.

This "article" is not legit. It is a press release by a law firm trolling for law school clients to do risk management. It's just an advertisement.

That said, we are going to see more class actions in 2012. A lot of them I suspect.

MTal wrote:

CanadianWolf wrote:Thanks for posting this. The easy answer is to return to the pre-2005 bankruptcy laws which made student loan debt dischargeable. This would cause lenders to stop lending ridiculous amounts of money to fund & fuel inflated tuition charges.

I support ending all government support for student loans. Let private lenders decide whether to lend 100k to a cooley student.

I'd actually like them to go in the opposite direction. Do away with plus loans, insure private loans can be discharged in bankruptcy, and cap federal loans (I imagine the current 20,500 dollars would be sufficient). This would, hopefully, create "soft" tuition caps and would favor students who spent a couple years in the workforce before going to law school.

If someone really wants to sue effectively, go after the ABA for accrediting new Tier 4 schools and letting them boost enrollment.

Ludovico Technique wrote:

MTal wrote:

Ludovico Technique wrote: If it was from anyone else it would be ok (although I don't think there's really anything particularly newsworthy about it)

Nothing newsworth? The very institutions which this site promotes as being worthwhile are being sued for fraud.

When HYSCC actually gets sued for fraud let me know. Nobody on this site ever said it was worthwhile to go to Cooley or Thomas Jefferson.

How about that?

LawperaMan wrote:If someone really wants to sue effectively, go after the ABA for accrediting new Tier 4 schools and letting them boost enrollment.

But-for or proximate?

Ludovico Technique wrote:Do you really purposely seek out articles about law school every day? If there were a profession I had gone to school for but then flunked out of I wouldn't waste all my time reading about it.

+ 100,000

MTal wrote:Seems the lawsuits earlier this year were just the beginning.

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Cool! I could get in on this. Hopefully I get accepted to law school so I can join this. Don't mess with lawyers, especially new, young, ambitious ones.

haven't read yet, but I'm ok with an Mtal troll thread as long as he brings something new and enlightening to the table.

Philosopher King wrote:

MTal wrote:Seems the lawsuits earlier this year were just the beginning.

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Cool! I could get in on this. Hopefully I get accepted to law school so I can join this. Don't mess with lawyers, especially new, young, ambitious ones.

I don't want to indulge you or your incessant rants, but just a piece of information for you: you can't justify joining/filing this type of class action suit until you actually graduate and are thus affected by the falsified employment data. Considering that you will not graduate until 2015 at the earliest, you will arguably be late to the party.

Furthermore, I'm pretty sure you would need to be a graduate from one of the schools in order to join the class. I then ask why would you matriculate at a shitty school only to sue them? Would you choose a school that is involved in the class action so you could sue them? If you did, that is pretty poor logic: enrolling in a school that is being accused of falsifying data in an effort to sue them, rather than choosing a school that will provide you with the best opportunities for gainful employment. And matriculating even though you know about the lawsuit only damages your argument. Of course, this depends on how high up the rankings these suits go.

Final note: stop trying to sue every institution involved in the legal profession. First it was LSAC. Now law schools? Just stop.

Ludovico Technique wrote:

MTal wrote:

Ludovico Technique wrote: If it was from anyone else it would be ok (although I don't think there's really anything particularly newsworthy about it)

Nothing newsworth? The very institutions which this site promotes as being worthwhile are being sued for fraud.

When a T1 law school actually gets sued for fraud let me know. Nobody on this site ever said it was worthwhile to go to Cooley or Thomas Jefferson.

My school (Villanova) has been hit with a class action. We're not T1, but if you think there's a difference between most of the T1 and Villanova then you'd have to be a bit delusional.

Class certification is going to be a bitch for a lot of these cases.