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number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:50 pm
by anstone1988
How many applicants each year have the following stats:

1. 176+
2. 3.96+
3. 176+ and 3.96+

I guess it would be easy to determine the number of applicants with 176+, but what about the other two?

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:47 pm
by JD2014
Under 1%

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:55 pm
by anstone1988
JD2014 wrote:Under 1%
Interesting.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:56 pm
by splitmuch
anstone1988 wrote:How many applicants each year have the following stats:

1. 176+
2. 3.96+
3. 176+ and 3.96+

I guess it would be easy to determine the number of applicants with 176+, but what about the other two?
Well .4 percent have 176+, I'm guessing about 1 % have 3.96+, which if they were independent of each other would mean about .04%. However, they are likely not independent so I would say likely .03% of applicants which of 67000 applicants means about 20 total. That does seem a little low to me, though.

Edit for being dumb, they are likely correlated so I should have revised my prediction upward, not downward. Lets say .06% at which point were looking at around 40 total students.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:59 pm
by FantasticMrFox
Are you looking at Harvard 75th percentiles?
I think the number-answers to your question is only relevant in terms of admissions to individual schools, no? It'll be higher in the upper end of the rankings compared to some other schools.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:00 pm
by lawyerwannabe
You cannot simply look at a school's 75th percentile for LSAT / GPA. In many cases, the high 75th percentiles are a product of a students with a high GPA and a lower LSAT and students with a lower GPA and high LSAT (of course, being relative to the school).

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:03 pm
by FantasticMrFox
lawyerwannabe wrote:You cannot simply look at a school's 75th percentile for LSAT / GPA. In many cases, the high 75th percentiles are a product of a students with a high GPA and a lower LSAT and students with a lower GPA and high LSAT (of course, being relative to the school).
Hence, his three-part question but I feel like this is rather "putting the cart before the horse"

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:07 pm
by albanach
splitmuch wrote:
Well .4 percent have 176+, I'm guessing about 1 % have 3.96+, which if they were independent of each other would mean about .04%. However, they are likely not independent so I would say likely .03% of applicants which of 67000 applicants means about 20 total. That does seem a little low to me, though.
.4% of test takers have 176+. I'd expect lots of test takers with low LSATs choose not to apply, meaning that significantly more than .4% of applicants have 176+.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:08 pm
by fastforward
Here is a link to the answer. It's by Zen of 180 based on published LSAC data. The scarcity or abundance of a given score is a very important issue to grasp for those aspiring to a T6+- school.

Is anyone aware of a reliable source for GPA data?

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:25 pm
by splitmuch
albanach wrote:
splitmuch wrote:
Well .4 percent have 176+, I'm guessing about 1 % have 3.96+, which if they were independent of each other would mean about .04%. However, they are likely not independent so I would say likely .03% of applicants which of 67000 applicants means about 20 total. That does seem a little low to me, though.
.4% of test takers have 176+. I'd expect lots of test takers with low LSATs choose not to apply, meaning that significantly more than .4% of applicants have 176+.
good point

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:15 pm
by fastforward
No need to "guess" or "expect" -- the actual numbers are available. 8)

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:42 pm
by anstone1988
fastforward wrote:No need to "guess" or "expect" -- the actual numbers are available. 8)
Can you elaborate?

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:29 pm
by ahduth
What exactly is the point of this thread?

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:34 pm
by JD2014
What exactly is the point of this thread?
OP presumably has these stats and is trying to handicap his odds at HY.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:37 pm
by ahduth
JD2014 wrote:
What exactly is the point of this thread?
OP presumably has these stats and is trying to handicap his odds at HY.
Isn't there a "what are my chances" forum?

Whatever. I posted this in another thread, but I think it now belongs here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt8r8fumEYY

Enjoy.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:46 pm
by ahduth
Now I'm just checking out the TLS mobile interface. Seems pretty cool actually.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:01 pm
by anstone1988
ahduth wrote:
JD2014 wrote:
What exactly is the point of this thread?
OP presumably has these stats and is trying to handicap his odds at HY.
Isn't there a "what are my chances" forum?

Whatever. I posted this in another thread, but I think it now belongs here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt8r8fumEYY

Enjoy.
Thanks. This question just popped into my head one day at work. It's one of the more interesting questions that popped into my head during work; I go to a TTT UG and couldn't find paid work anywhere other than the local grocery store.

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:24 pm
by fastforward
At the risk of repeating myself . .
fastforward wrote:Here is a link to the answer. It's by Zen of 180 based on published LSAC data. The scarcity or abundance of a given score is a very important issue to grasp for those aspiring to a T6+- school.

Is anyone aware of a reliable source for GPA data?

Re: number of applicants each year with these stats

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:20 pm
by hipstermafia
ahduth wrote:Now I'm just checking out the TLS mobile interface. Seems pretty cool actually.
cool story brah