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Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:58 pm
by Helicio
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Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:07 pm
by NYC Law
Helicio wrote:Hi guys,
As a white applicant who does not come from money, I was just wondering how much legacy, rich people who donate to the school, and the such play a role in law school admissions. Do they play as much of a role in law school admissions as they did in undergrad. admissions?
In other words, are there more spots open in law school admissions for white people who aren't rich and who aren't legacy to be accepted on merit alone? Or do legacy/donors play as large a role as they did in undergrad. admissions?
Why do you always put a period between undergrad admissions?
Anyway, no, legacies aren't nearly as prominent in law school admissions. It can help at schools like Yale, but its occurance is very rarely publicly known.
But who knows. Published medians always seem much lower than lawschoolnumbers medians, maybe it's due to a ton of legacies who keep it on the down low.
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:09 pm
by delusional
Helicio wrote:Hi guys,
As a white applicant who does not come from money, I was just wondering how much legacy, rich people who donate to the school, and the such play a role in law school admissions. Do they play as much of a role in law school admissions as they did in undergrad. admissions?
In other words, are there more spots open in law school admissions for white people who aren't rich and who aren't legacy to be accepted on merit alone? Or do legacy/donors play as large a role as they did in undergrad. admissions?
Dude. Don't sweat the odd stuff. Kill the LSAT, and Harvard is your oyster.
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:14 pm
by Helicio
How do people know that donors/legacies aren't as important in Law School admissions? I've heard this before, but is there any concrete evidence? Does legacy play less of a role since with less spots, law schools want a stronger class?
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:14 pm
by fatduck
in the absence of evidence, assume whatever you please
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:20 pm
by delusional
Helicio wrote:How do people know that donors/legacies aren't as important in Law School admissions? I've heard this before, but is there any concrete evidence? Does legacy play less of a role since with less spots, law schools want a stronger class?
I think someone once pointed out on the board that people with too much money don't bother going to trade school.
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:30 pm
by flcath
delusional wrote:Helicio wrote:How do people know that donors/legacies aren't as important in Law School admissions? I've heard this before, but is there any concrete evidence? Does legacy play less of a role since with less spots, law schools want a stronger class?
I think someone once pointed out on the board that people with too much money don't bother going to trade school.
I was going to say the same thing.
Families with buildings named after them don't send their kids to law school. UG is all that's required to pass the social muster.
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:32 pm
by Helicio
Well then, this is encouraging. Thanks
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Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:36 pm
by yngblkgifted
flcath wrote:delusional wrote:Helicio wrote:How do people know that donors/legacies aren't as important in Law School admissions? I've heard this before, but is there any concrete evidence? Does legacy play less of a role since with less spots, law schools want a stronger class?
I think someone once pointed out on the board that people with too much money don't bother going to trade school.
I was going to say the same thing.
Families with buildings named after them don't send their kids to law school. UG is all that's required to pass the social muster.
Exactly, unless you feel you have to prove something like the Kennedys, why the hell would you go to law school if you were from a wealthy family?
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:19 am
by wester0
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Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:24 am
by slacker
wester0 wrote:Proof that legacy status can play a
significant role in admissions.
I've never really understood the brother mentioned in that LSN profile. If the brother had good enough numbers to go to Columbia, he easily could've gotten Yale assuming a similar legacy boost was given.
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:25 am
by dr123
wester0 wrote:Proof that legacy status can play a
significant role in admissions.
He's not your average run of the mill legacy, his uncle is a professor at YLS and from the sounds of it his father and grandfather are/were donors
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:27 am
by flcath
dr123 wrote:wester0 wrote:Proof that legacy status can play a
significant role in admissions.
He's not your average run of the mill legacy, his uncle is a professor at YLS and from the sounds of it his father and grandfather are/were donors
If this is real then we should be able to easily verify it.
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:59 am
by wester0
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Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:46 am
by ahduth
Whatever, this guy is an anecdote. This isn't Fox News - one anecdote doesn't make "legacy status impact" true or interesting.
Re: Legacy Status
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:20 pm
by flcath
ahduth wrote:Whatever, this guy is an anecdote. This isn't Fox News - one anecdote doesn't make "legacy status impact" true or interesting.
More to the point, the quantity of ppl we'd be talking about is really low. It's not like, say, URM preference, which affects a substantial enough portion of applicants to make a difference to everyone's odds.
(Not a shot at AA.)