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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:13 pm
by jw316
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Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:14 pm
by Moxie
You'll be fine IF you get the necessary LSAT score.

Edit to say - you'll get HYS with a 165+. Probably even 163+ at Harvard.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:14 pm
by splitmuch
jw316 wrote:I'm now finishing up my junior year at a State university.

My cumulative GPA currently sits around 3.98. While I've done "well" up to this point, due to some major events in the family and other circumstances, my focus, etc. just hasn't been the same.

Going into my last two finals, it's looking like I'm going to 3.5 at least one, if not two, courses this semester.

That being said, how likely is a drop in my cumulative gpa from a 3.98 to a 3.95 going to impact admissions chances at HYS? (Still waiting to take the LSAT)

**please reply to this if you have some insight to offer, I truly appreciate it
Not as much as 1 point the LSAT. Really not at all.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:15 pm
by minuit
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Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:16 pm
by danquayle
splitmuch wrote:
jw316 wrote:I'm now finishing up my junior year at a State university.

My cumulative GPA currently sits around 3.98. While I've done "well" up to this point, due to some major events in the family and other circumstances, my focus, etc. just hasn't been the same.

Going into my last two finals, it's looking like I'm going to 3.5 at least one, if not two, courses this semester.

That being said, how likely is a drop in my cumulative gpa from a 3.98 to a 3.95 going to impact admissions chances at HYS? (Still waiting to take the LSAT)

**please reply to this if you have some insight to offer, I truly appreciate it
Not as much as 1 point the LSAT. Really not at all.
I dunno, it shows a pretty steep downward trend...

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:17 pm
by booboo
Maintain an above median GPA for the three schools, have worthy softs for YS, and you may even get into one of the three with a low 160s score.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:18 pm
by FantasticMrFox
jw316 wrote:I'm now finishing up my junior year at a State university. URM AA Male.

My cumulative GPA currently sits around 3.98.
I think with that high of a GPA and URM, with a decent score, you need not worry! Look at the other URM's stats for those schools and see but at least GPA-wise, yours is more impressive than other URM stats I've seen but they might've gone to a harder university through affirmative action during the UG round

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:19 pm
by Moral_Midgetry
jw316 wrote:I'm just wrapping up my freshman year, 4.0 first semester and after obtaining a heartbreaking 3.5 in one class [4.0's in the rest] this semester, I'm expecting to finish the year with a cumulative 3.94. If I maintain a GPA between a 3.88 and a 3.98, at bare minimum what range do I need to aim for on the LSAT for admission into HYS as an AA male?

Additionally, when should I begin prepping for the LSAT given the fact that I want to take either the February or June 2011 test?

I've got a better resumé than almost anyone I know with a summer internship at a major corporation while in high school, active in student government at a Big Ten university, and as I'm only a freshman I plan on continuing to build it up even more.

P.S. I know this is early, I need to focus on maintaining a high GPA, etc. but I've been on the verge of an anxiety attack over the 3.5 I got....and no, it's not a sign of immaturity, I'm just incredibly driven to the point where some may argue it's unhealthy.

Thank you!
For real bro?

edit: link to his other thread: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 14&t=71264

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:21 pm
by danquayle
Now I feel bad for being snarky. Dude, it's going to have zero effect. You're above the median by a comfortable margin. 3.95 is still above top 75% even. All that matters at this point is your LSAT.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:25 pm
by jw316
Moral_Midgetry wrote:
jw316 wrote:I'm just wrapping up my freshman year, 4.0 first semester and after obtaining a heartbreaking 3.5 in one class [4.0's in the rest] this semester, I'm expecting to finish the year with a cumulative 3.94. If I maintain a GPA between a 3.88 and a 3.98, at bare minimum what range do I need to aim for on the LSAT for admission into HYS as an AA male?

Additionally, when should I begin prepping for the LSAT given the fact that I want to take either the February or June 2011 test?

I've got a better resumé than almost anyone I know with a summer internship at a major corporation while in high school, active in student government at a Big Ten university, and as I'm only a freshman I plan on continuing to build it up even more.

P.S. I know this is early, I need to focus on maintaining a high GPA, etc. but I've been on the verge of an anxiety attack over the 3.5 I got....and no, it's not a sign of immaturity, I'm just incredibly driven to the point where some may argue it's unhealthy.

Thank you!
For real bro?

edit: link to his other thread: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 14&t=71264
I mean you can clown me all you want, that thread was started in the spring of my freshman year, shortly after I turned 18. When I got that 3.5 my freshman year I freaked because I knew that meant I couldn't graduate with a 4.0 anymore.

The tone of that first post does kind of take me a little off-guard almost given the sense of entitlement it projects (again, I was young) but I can assure you that my chronic anxiety regarding uncertainty in the admissions process quickly dispelled that notion if it was ever there to begin with.

Call it ridiculous, but knowing that I want a legal education and being in a position where my options aren't limited/I am able to pick whatever school is the best fit for me, means everything.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:27 pm
by jw316
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Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:32 pm
by jdhonest
Say hi to Uncle Phil and Cousin Will for me. Is Hilary still single...?

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:34 pm
by bhan87
A .03 drop is not significant as long as you don't drop below the median. Congrats on that awesome GPA

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:41 pm
by FantasticMrFox
Oh, and you can try playing with this:
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-co ... ograms.htm

Make sure to click "URM"

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:54 pm
by d34d9823
Hate to disagree with everyone, but 3.96 is H's 75th. Being at or above that is a big deal. That said, I don't think the difference it will make will be that significant, as your LSAT score will matter far more.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:57 pm
by rundoxierun
Here is a hint:

Im an AA male from a state university heading to HLS in the fall. I got good grades in college as an Econ major/Bio minor while still having crazy fun and dating my gf. No need to obsess to get into HYS. Chill and have fun. The key to happiness is being efficient. Plus, life goes downhill at an ever increasing rate after the mid-late twenties anyway. Savior it while you have it.

CHILL!!

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:40 pm
by dkt4
FantasticMrFox wrote: I think with that high of a GPA and URM, with a decent score, you need not worry! Look at the other URM's stats for those schools and see but at least GPA-wise, yours is more impressive than other URM stats I've seen but they might've gone to a harder university through affirmative action during the UG round
lulz

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:04 pm
by mfeller2
dkt4 wrote:
FantasticMrFox wrote: I think with that high of a GPA and URM, with a decent score, you need not worry! Look at the other URM's stats for those schools and see but at least GPA-wise, yours is more impressive than other URM stats I've seen but they might've gone to a harder university through affirmative action during the UG round
lulz
Saw that too. :roll:

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:56 am
by futurelawstudent1
No one's called flame?

The OP just copied and pasted a post he wrote two years ago, and the question he's asking is downright absurd.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:02 am
by flcath
futurelawstudent1 wrote:No one's called flame?

The OP just copied and pasted a post he wrote two years ago, and the question he's asking is downright absurd.
Why do people find flames like this funny?

I mean Jesus, at least start an Affirmative Action thread.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:10 am
by shoeshine
This is from his 2009 thread.
jw316 wrote:
geoanthem wrote:Is this a joke? Come back in a few years.
No it's not a joke. Obviously I can't necessarily accurately predict my academic performance, but assuming things continue the way they have been there's no reason why I can't make the argument that the GPA range given will be accurate.
He actually really came back two years later. If he is a flame he is dedicated.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:22 am
by danquayle
shoeshine wrote:This is from his 2009 thread.
jw316 wrote:
geoanthem wrote:Is this a joke? Come back in a few years.
No it's not a joke. Obviously I can't necessarily accurately predict my academic performance, but assuming things continue the way they have been there's no reason why I can't make the argument that the GPA range given will be accurate.
He actually really came back two years later. If he is a flame he is dedicated.
I know, that's follow-through. If it's a flame, he at least deserves a 5 pages.

Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:56 am
by almightypush
Moxie wrote:You'll be fine IF you get the necessary LSAT score.

Edit to say - you'll get HYS with a 165+. Probably even 163+ at Harvard.
TITCR.

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Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:03 pm
by jw316
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Re: 3.98 vs 3.95 -- Impact on HYS Admissions?

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:12 pm
by parsi
jw316 wrote:
flcath wrote:
futurelawstudent1 wrote:No one's called flame?

The OP just copied and pasted a post he wrote two years ago, and the question he's asking is downright absurd.
Why do people find flames like this funny?

I mean Jesus, at least start an Affirmative Action thread.
Why don't people actually take threads like this seriously? Is it that hard to believe that someone who doesn't have the time to spend every waking moment on this site in order to have an insane post count, can still realize that there is some value to this site and the opinions of those who may have been in similar circumstances in past cycles?

Yes I am African-American, but so what? I added the URM status as an afterthought because I thought it might be relevant, but I want the numbers that would "qualify" any applicant for admission. I'm not going to turn this into an affirmative action thread, so let's just leave things here. I didn't get serious in high school until it was too late so acceptance into my undergraduate institution was held pending my senior year grades. That was the first time I've felt "rejection" so to speak, in that light and something I promised myself on that day I would avoid at all costs. Since then, and knowing my aspirations for the future, I've been attempting to do as well as I can with a mentality of 4.0 or bust...again knowing how rejection feels, I want to do whatever I can to put myself in the best position possible when it comes to the next stage in life and applying to law schools so that I don't have to limit my options and can find whichever school is the best fit for me (on a personal, financial, and career-oriented basis).

I'm not a "flame," rather someone who, perhaps like some of you, has been devoid of guidance and even when I've sought advice within the university, the response has been underwhelming to say the least. Is it that farfetched that someone might actually need advice?

Again, to those of you who actually had something insightful to offer, I really do appreciate it. While I may not have gotten a 4.0 for the semester, finals went a little better than I thought. From what I've been able to gather, at this point I just need to hit the LSAT hard and then re-evaluate based on my score.
If you really care, most candidates would need a 173+ to be considered to YHS, but since you stated you were URM, this isnt the case for you; You probably need 165+. Im sorry that your standards of admission are lower than others :roll: